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THE NEW UMC-750 Universal 5-axis Machine


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#21 mkd

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:30 PM

"last quarter of '12"
aka next month?

their website has the UMC catagory listed, but a 404 when u click.

intresting about the fanuc compatibility focus. that has been a marketing tennent since Haas' inception.

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Had a Haas AE asking me about TCP, WSEC, RTDFO, etc... How they worked,
..when u figure it out, let me know. :unworthy: JK

when are you publishing a "fanuc guide for dummies"? :unworthy:

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 06:51 PM

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 07:26 PM

hear that people? he's been holding back from us all these years!!

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

theeere heeere!

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 03:41 PM

View Postmkd, on 09 August 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

hear that people? he's been holding back from us all these years!!
Got a problem with all the information I've given to all of you for FREE for the last 11 years or so? :D

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 06:56 PM

CNCAPPS, u da man!!!!
and thanks, BTW. :unworthy:

pretty darn good price on this puppy. say 150k OTD?
seems like a great starter machine. Going to make a bunch of people think twice before going directly to the euro and Asian machines.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:01 PM

They added the support bearing at the end of the turntable too :)

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 07:06 AM

^^^yeh but how the heck did they get as far as making the prototype before realising they needed it? A one eye blind man squinting could have seen the need for that...


And James, many thanks for all your info throughout the years - very very much appreciated :cheers:

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 07:13 AM

There are plenty of table/table designs that have no support. Small second rotary or 5C setups usually. I think it was just hoping and shooting from the hip rather than in depth engineering.

I have a minimill and I see several things wrong with it, big things like tool changer position that they did change in subsequent models. Try to change the coolant in a mini. real nice Gene.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 01:46 PM

^^^^let's not even talk about a Tool Room lathe where the cross slide has some sort of felt 'seal' that actually acts as a coolant conduit which drains directly to the floor. the backsplash that looks very functional in the catalog; it serves no purpose other than to direct anything that hits it directly to the floor.
some of these littler machines may be called FIAT: Fix It Again Tony.
Haas' comical/sad lack of design prowess notwithstanding, their ability to assemble and ship main-line (VFs) machines in the USA should be respected. they run a tight ship and have been rewarded with bigtime market success. so bigger picture: if not for Haas we all would be paying much much more for our Mori's Mazaks, DMGs et al. there business model has parallels to  the US military production during WWII; overwhelm them with numbers. :unworthy:

as far as the minimill that was an exercise in bringing a machine to market at an unheard of price. compromises and mistakes were made i see.  
the big three automakers engaged in a similar business plan; save money on development, get a product to market fast and fix the problems as they arise on production line. really gave our auto industry a black eye.

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 01:00 PM

It seems to have good mass for a Haas #18000 it should cut pretty smooth.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:45 AM

Just read on another forum that it's a worm geat for both axis on the table.

And ref the toolroom lathe - it's ok to use the handles providing you're under 5ft tall :D

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 11:12 AM

Guys, you have to remember that Haas is not meant for every application or every market segment. The old addage "you get what you pay for" is in full effect. Do not expect FANUC/Seimens/Heidenhein functionality on a Haas. Just don't. There is a reaosn they are at the pricepont they are. Don't read this as a dig. Keeping prices at any given level requires certain sacrifices otherwise they would all machine tools would be Mitsui-Seiki, Matsuura, DMG, Toyoda, Makino, etc...

Just keep that in mind when you get all excited about a "budget" 5-Axis machine.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 06:21 PM

View Postnewbeeee, on 18 September 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

Just read on another forum that it's a worm geat for both axis on the table.

And ref the toolroom lathe - it's ok to use the handles providing you're under 5ft tall :D
ya those red handles can really rustle your jimmies.

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 07:43 PM

View PostCNC Apps Guy 1, on 18 September 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Guys, you have to remember that Haas is not meant for every application or every market segment. The old addage "you get what you pay for" is in full effect. Do not expect FANUC/Seimens/Heidenhein functionality on a Haas. Just don't. There is a reaosn they are at the pricepont they are. Don't read this as a dig. Keeping prices at any given level requires certain sacrifices otherwise they would all machine tools would be Mitsui-Seiki, Matsuura, DMG, Toyoda, Makino, etc...

Just keep that in mind when you get all excited about a "budget" 5-Axis machine.

Did you leave Okuma out of your list because they are on a higher level all by themselves? ;)