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#1 Müřlıń®

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 02:15 AM

A while back, a worm started going around the internet that made your computer boot over and over.

I had been on the internet for 15 years and never had a virus or worm get on my computer so when my PC started rebooting over and over, I assumed that it was my time to get one.

Well, I finally got all my software re-installed and was up and running.

Now since I'm not the brightest guy on this computer stuff, I'm thinking that these hackers are getting too tricky for me.

The next thing I know is that my outlook express, opens up an e-mail in preview that happens to be the first one on the page.

This e-mail says calls me stupid and says a worm has attached to my system and it is going to crash me.

I come in here and tell you all about it and get laughed right off the boards......OK I deserved it.  

Then CRASH......rebooting over and over.....bluescreen of death....ARGGGGGGG!!!

I am reading about the newest worm that is kind of like the old one and since I didn't go patch I
thoought it has to be......how are these guys getting to my PC????

Well, I finally get my PC up and running, this time I will do a Ghost and all those hackers can go to hell I'm thinking.....

My brother wiped my HDD with some super , duper, wipe program that the military uses so he says there is no way I have a boot sector virus.

I go and get a new e-mail, blah, blah, blah.....

Then before I can even get all my software re-installed....my whole computer screen turns grey and the whole screen is filled up with white symbols that looks like a house.  The whole screen is just flashing at me....
I'll tell yas, I'm pulling my hair out over here.


I reboot and get DISK BOOT FAILURE....I am accused of going to webbsites and getting a virus...I think, the only sites I have been to is Anglefire and Mastercam....what is going on....

I buy a new HDD and my brother is yelling at me...there's nothing wrong with yours....

So I don't put it in and Ghost my system back on again....I am thinking that I'm a total freaking retard...

Now it's 12:30 and I'm up late keeping my CNC's running around the clock on this hot job.
Everyone is in bed and the house is quiet.
I turn on my PC so I can read the Forum and I hear this faint noise comming from my case.  Kinda sounds like my HDD making a wierd noise.

Then another BOOT DISK FAILURE....

Reboot and the noise quits and so far hasnt come back....

Got to be the HDD, right???

I sure hope so....I'm installing it today when I get a chance.....

Well this was a long winded story......

But the moral is....

Things aren't always what they seem.....


Murlin teh whew....

[ 09-26-2003, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Bullines ]

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 02:25 AM

Sounds like your HDD is dying bro.  Screeching or grinding noises coming from the drive are never a good thing.  This isn't an IBM Deskstar drive by chance ?  We had to return two of them (RMA - they send you new units), they are known for failing...  One thing for sure, computers will drive you nuts...

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 02:56 AM

I would suggest a couple of things for e-mail client software (Outlook, Outlook Express, etc...) TURN OFF THE PREVIEW PANE! "Malicious" code can be run from it meaning once you open it (read once it pops up in preview) the code then executes or if there is HTML, it will sort of open a website and execute whatever the hacker wants.

I use a Software Firewall and Norton Anti-Virus. This, along with NEVER, EVER, EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OPEN AN ATTACHEMNT FROM SOMEBODY I DON'T KNOW, and if I do know them sometimes I'll call them and ask about it before I open it.

I'm not yelling at you, I'm just trying to go for  EMPHASIS .

Happy computing.

Oh, your HDD is probably suspect if it making "unnatural" noises.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 03:06 AM

Good luck Murlin  smile.gif  

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 03:09 AM

This sound to me like one the W32 series worms that was going around IE sobig or Blaster.

I had a laptop with the same thing.
I wiped the drive. Reinstalled win 2000 and as soon as you go back on the Internet you'll get it again.
You need to have someone else dowload the patches for win 2000 for you then clean the drive re-install win 2000 and apply the patches before you hook back up to the net.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 03:12 AM

If you have plenty of things plugged into your computer (multiple hard drives, CD/DVD drives, high-end video card, a few sticks of RAM, etc) make sure you have a decent enough power supply; 350W minimum.

Hard drives make many types of noises, most of which are normal.  But if your HD is making "loud" noises, that's bad.  Minor clicking noises is usually stiction, which is caused by humidity.  Grinding or scratching noises are a sure sign of a dying hard drive (the head usually crashes into the platters).

If it's worms, virii and malware in general that you're worried about and you have a broadband connection, always do your clean Windows install with the network cable unplugged.  Download service packs and antivirus definitions on a "safe" computer and burn them to a CD/DVD.  Install your OS, antivirus software, service packs and anti virus definitions with your network cable unplugged.  Once that's done, plug in and get the rest of the updates from  Windows Update.  And now for my final recommendation...

If you do not need access to an Exchange server, use  Mozilla for web/email (instead of Internet Explorer and Outlook/Outlook Express) and Open Office for office suite stuff (instead of Word/Excel/PowerPoint).  HTH

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 03:54 AM

Murlin, 2 things..

1) It's "victim"  wink.gif

2) It's your HDD, slap your brother.  biggrin.gif

'Rekd teh +1 to Bulline's entire post.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 04:04 AM

+1000 on the Mozilla recommendation....  Been using it for approx. six months and love it.  The power supply is also a great thing to mention.  Many times the supply has been the culprit when a troubled machine was doing weird things.  If I were you, I'd put that new drive in, load a fresh O/S and virus scan, do all of the updates, then plug in your old drive as a slave and move whatever files you need off of it (scan them prior to moving them).

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 04:04 AM

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I think, the only sites I have been to is Anglefire and Mastercam

Ooohhh...
I forgot to tell all you guys...
angelfire is a majorly infected site!  biggrin.gif    biggrin.gif  

JUST KIDDING  tongue.gif

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 04:43 AM

I went through a failed hard drive { tick tick....} they called it a catastrofic head crash. It's not a fun thing to happen. I lost everything, so make shure to back everything up. having to enter all those different codes and keys and ect.. is a waste of a good day.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 05:13 AM

Not to hijack this thread..I use Opera for most of my web browsing, what's Mozilla like?  Brief pro's and cons?  

Opera is still filled with "issues", and I resort to Explorer often....seems to usually be Javascript problems?    eek.gif

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 05:20 AM

I haven't used it, yet. But it doesn't have the holes IE has.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 05:21 AM

les,

My HDD would tick from time to time. About a second between. Would tick for the better part of a day then stop for a while.

Been like this for almost a year now, still waiting for the big crash..  rolleyes.gif

'Rekd teh all backed up and nowhere to go

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 05:29 AM

Mozilla is actually pretty good. I have it set up with a minimum of plug-ins and most web sites work just fine with it. On the (fairly rare) occasion I find a site that dosn't work right, I just drag the link to IE and open the site there. I've heard good things about Opera, but was unimpressed by the ads in the 'free' version, and can't see paying for a product when one of better quality (Mozilla) is avalible for free.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 05:30 AM

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Not to hijack this thread..I use Opera for most of my web browsing, what's Mozilla like? Brief pro's and cons?

Opera is still filled with "issues", and I resort to Explorer often....seems to usually be Javascript problems?

Many sites are not Opera-friendly, even if you set Opera to trick web servers into thinking it's IE or Mozilla.

Mozilla wouldn't be a radical change from Opera for you.  It has tabs and popup blocking like Opera and it's email client is top notch (it has a built-in spam filter).  Mozilla is very stable on both Windows and Linux, in my experience; not a single crash with v1.4.  Mozilla renders fast...especially tables (try refreshing this forum wiht Mozilla....fast).  Also, Mozilla is open source.  For a "why you should use Mozilla" rant, go  here.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 06:31 AM

Thx Bullines,

I think I'll get Mozilla running this weekend...

As for Opera, the mouse gesture navigation is spectacular, and the overall speed of page loading is at least 3x that of IE.  It's great for surfing, but that's about it.  You probably all have notice my occasionally mis-formatted postings, that's Opera!  biggrin.gif

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 06:58 AM

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It's "victim  

DOH!!!

Heh I have to be the worst speller   rolleyes.gif  

Ya Rekd, I was thinking about slapping him when he gets his lazy butt outa bed......heh   biggrin.gif      biggrin.gif  

Oh ya, Bullines..the sound it was making was like, I could hear the HDD slowing down and speeding back up.  At least thats what it sounded like.  It was then I got the Boot Disk Falure message.  I had a bad powersupply that popped my main board just a little while back and I think it might have damaged the HDD. But when I rebooted, the revving noise was gone and it came right on.  Kinda sounded like a loud CD Rom but the CD Rom wasn't running at the time.

Thanks for tips guys

Murlin teh stressed out....

[ 09-26-2003, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Murlin ]

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 07:15 AM

Talking about crashes I worked at a place one time and I told them problay 100 times need to back everything up and of course they didnt listen. I then had to go reload the whole office one day when they lost everything when a HDD died. Think they got a clue then of course not. I used my computer out in the shop seprate from their network cause they were always getting crap. I keeped backups of everything against their orders but not my co-worker. I again keep telling them get a CD burner a tape back-up something of course no response. Then of course it happned the HDD on our Machine Computer for all Program for a obout 4 years worth of work that was all repeat work crashed and died. It was about 4,000 man hours of programming time and set-up and job sheets and well you get my drift.

Then it became a big deal now they buy the freaking back-up. I asked them what about all that lost time and they were like oh well guess we have to start over. Well being the nice guy I am I gave them my Back-up copy of everything I had that they had forbid me to do and that pissed them off even more. Oh well such is the story of life.

This from the same guy(the owner of the compnay) who would buy tools for him to do a job then lock them up when you had to do the job and yell at you if you didnt get it done on time case he locked all the carbide up and expected you to do all the stainless with Highspeed in the same amout of time.

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Posted 26 September 2003 - 08:35 AM

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I again keep telling them get a CD burner  

+1 Only way to fly   biggrin.gif  

I guess thats why I work for myself Crazy,
got tired of working all the numbnutz that didnt know squat......heh   smile.gif  


You sound like you saved that companies butt....
They shoulda gave you a raise instead of getting more pissed off.....I know I would have   biggrin.gif      biggrin.gif      wink.gif

PS One of you Mods change the spelling of Victim for me  graemlins/cheers.gif  I don't want to look like more of a goof than I already have heh  biggrin.gif    


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Posted 26 September 2003 - 08:43 AM

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PS One of you Mods change the spelling of Victim for me  I don't want to look like more of a goof than I already have heh

*waving my magic wand and .:POOF:. all better