Haas TR-160Y Trunnion Table

[MSL]

Hi,

We just bought a Haas TR-160Y Trunnion Table. I need to do a test run on it. Was wondering if anyone out there is using this machine? If I start with the generic Haas TR series post that comes with Mastercam what should I change first since the TR160Y is sitting along the Y axis?

Using X6MU2

Thanks in advance.

Ara.

[K2csq7]

settings

machine def

double click the rotary axis & change the axis it rotates about.

 

HTH!

[Colin Gilchrist]

If you are using the Generic Haas TR Post, do not try and change anything in the Machine Definition. It has no effect on the TR post.

 

All of our Generic 5X Posts must be configured in the PST file itself. You will need to change the setting of the 'rotdir2$' variable. 'rotaxis' and 'rotdir' use vectors to establish the axis of rotation and the rotary zero direction. These vectors are always perpendicular to the rotary axis.

 

For the TR post, try setting 'rotdir2$' to either 'vecx' or '-vecx'. That should change the secondary rotary axis to rotate about Y.

[MSL]

If you are using the Generic Haas TR Post, do not try and change anything in the Machine Definition. It has no effect on the TR post.

 

All of our Generic 5X Posts must be configured in the PST file itself. You will need to change the setting of the 'rotdir2$' variable. 'rotaxis' and 'rotdir' use vectors to establish the axis of rotation and the rotary zero direction. These vectors are always perpendicular to the rotary axis.

 

For the TR post, try setting 'rotdir2$' to either 'vecx' or '-vecx'. That should change the secondary rotary axis to rotate about Y.

 

Thanks Colin. I'll try this.

Ara.

[segama]

I am working on this machine since 1 year, configurate and change post myself - 100% fully working post

Let me know by email [email protected] if u will need post or any help

[Oscar R.]

Was wondering if anyone out there is using this machine? If I start with the generic Haas TR series post that comes with Mastercam what should I change first since the TR160Y is sitting along the Y axis?

 

 

For the TR post, try setting 'rotdir2$' to either 'vecx' or '-vecx'. That should change the secondary rotary axis to rotate about Y.

 

We just started using a Haas TR-160Y with a control box recently.

I have not made any programs for it in MC yet, but made the changes that Collin suggested to the TR post and did a quick test. The code looks right so far.

[MSL]

We just started using a Haas TR-160Y with a control box recently.

I have not made any programs for it in MC yet, but made the changes that Collin suggested to the TR post and did a quick test. The code looks right so far.

 

Hi Oscar,

I made the changes. It looks right. just need to run my test program.

Thanks.

Ara.

[MSL]

If you are using the Generic Haas TR Post, do not try and change anything in the Machine Definition. It has no effect on the TR post.

 

All of our Generic 5X Posts must be configured in the PST file itself. You will need to change the setting of the 'rotdir2$' variable. 'rotaxis' and 'rotdir' use vectors to establish the axis of rotation and the rotary zero direction. These vectors are always perpendicular to the rotary axis.

 

For the TR post, try setting 'rotdir2$' to either 'vecx' or '-vecx'. That should change the secondary rotary axis to rotate about Y.

 

 

Hi Colin,

Could you check see if this part of my post is ok. Something is not right, can not find out why!!!!

It's a Haas TR-160Y Trunnion Table which sits along Y axis.

Thanks.

Ara.

 

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

# 5 Axis Rotary Settings

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

#Assign axis address

str_pri_axis : "A" #Changed from "B" to "A" 09/26/12

str_sec_axis : "B" #Changed from "B" to "A" 09/26/12

str_dum_axis : "C"

 

#Toolplane mapped to top angle position strings

str_n_a_axis : "A" #Changed from "B" to "A" 09/26/12

str_n_b_axis : "B" #Changed from "A" to "B" 09/26/12

str_n_c_axis : "C"

 

#Machine rotary routine settings

mtype : 0 #Machine type (Define base and rotation plane below)

#0 = Table/Table

#1 = Tilt Head/Table

#2 = Head/Head

#3 = Nutator Table/Table

#4 = Nutator Tilt Head/Table

#5 = Nutator Head/Head

[Colin Gilchrist]

Hi Ara,

 

The Primary axis string should be 'B' (axis with the highest travel range) and the Secondary should be 'A'.

 

You need to post the 'rotaxis1$/rotdir1$' and 'rotaxis2$/rotdir2$' settings. Those variables control how the angles are output.

[MSL]

Hi Ara,

 

The Primary axis string should be 'B' (axis with the highest travel range) and the Secondary should be 'A'.

 

You need to post the 'rotaxis1$/rotdir1$' and 'rotaxis2$/rotdir2$' settings. Those variables control how the angles are output.

 

 

Hi Colin,

 

Thanks for the reply. This post is for one of our local community collage, Since they don't have any luck with their local reseller. I'm volunteering my time to make it work, but don't have lot of experience on editing post. So, it will take me a while to get it right.

Appreciate your help.

Ara.

 

 

 

head_is_sec : 1 #Set with mtype 1 and 4 to indicate head is on secondary

 

#Preferred setup is pri. zero matches sec. zero/direction

#Zero machine and determine the planes perp. to axis rotations

#These plane combinations are valid:

#Primary plane XY XZ YZ

#Secondary or XZ XY XY

#Secondary YZ YZ XZ

 

#Primary axis angle description (in machine base terms)

#With nutating (mtype 3-5) the nutating axis must be the XY plane

rotaxis1$ = vecy #Zero

rotdir1$ = -vecx #Direction

 

#Secondary axis angle description (in machine base terms)

#With nutating (mtype 3-5) the nutating axis and this plane normal

#are aligned to calculate the secondary angle

rotaxis2$ = vecz #Zero

rotdir2$ = vecx #Direction # Changed from (vecy) to (vecx) 09/26/12

 

#NOTE: Use of 'top_map' requires the dealer match the

# above settings below. These must match initial settings!!!

p_nut_restore #Postblock, restores original axis settings

result = updgbl(rotaxis1$, "vecy") #Zero

result = updgbl(rotdir1$, "-vecx") #Direction

result = updgbl(rotaxis2$, "vecz") #Zero

result = updgbl(rotdir2$, "vecy") #Direction

[Rick Damiani]

Hi Ara,

 

The Primary axis string should be 'B' (axis with the highest travel range) and the Secondary should be 'A'.

 

You need to post the 'rotaxis1$/rotdir1$' and 'rotaxis2$/rotdir2$' settings. Those variables control how the angles are output.

 

On this machene the A is the one with the highest range. B can only go from -120 to 120.

[MSL]

On this machene the A is the one with the highest range. B can only go from -120 to 120.

 

How can I change That?

Thanks.

[segama]

If you are using the Generic Haas TR Post, do not try and change anything in the Machine Definition. It has no effect on the TR post.

 

All of our Generic 5X Posts must be configured in the PST file itself. You will need to change the setting of the 'rotdir2$' variable. 'rotaxis' and 'rotdir' use vectors to establish the axis of rotation and the rotary zero direction. These vectors are always perpendicular to the rotary axis.

 

For the TR post, try setting 'rotdir2$' to either 'vecx' or '-vecx'. That should change the secondary rotary axis to rotate about Y.

 

Hello I tried follow step by step your description and almost everything is working, apart from B axis.

Our Trunion is located on right side

(Just for your informations

I limit axis to limit A axis as below:

 

 

#Set the absolute angles for axis travel on secondary

sec_limlo$ : -30

sec_limhi$ : 120

#Set intermediate angle, in limits, for post to reposition machine

sec_intlo$ : -30

sec_inthi$ : 120

 

)

 

All movements on X, Y, Z, A look fine

But B axis is wrong.

In example we must change:

( b AXIS IS 90 DEGREE OUT)

 

B-90 to B180 or B-180.

 

Which variables I need to change to get this output ?

Could You help?

 

 

This is part of out 5 axis post:

 

# 5 Axis Rotary Settings

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

#Assign axis address

str_pri_axis : "B"

str_sec_axis : "A"

str_dum_axis : "C"

 

#Toolplane mapped to top angle position strings

str_n_a_axis : "B"

str_n_b_axis : "A"

str_n_c_axis : "C"

 

#Machine rotary routine settings

mtype : 0 #Machine type (Define base and rotation plane below)

#0 = Table/Table

#1 = Tilt Head/Table

#2 = Head/Head

#3 = Nutator Table/Table

#4 = Nutator Tilt Head/Table

#5 = Nutator Head/Head

 

head_is_sec : 1 #Set with mtype 1 and 4 to indicate head is on secondary

 

#Preferred setup is pri. zero matches sec. zero/direction

#Zero machine and determine the planes perp. to axis rotations

#These plane combinations are valid:

#Primary plane XY XZ YZ

#Secondary or XZ XY XY

#Secondary YZ YZ XZ

 

#Primary axis angle description (in machine base terms)

#With nutating (mtype 3-5) the nutating axis must be the XY plane

rotaxis1$ = vecy #Zero

rotdir1$ = -vecx #Direction (originally -vecx )

 

#Secondary axis angle description (in machine base terms)

#With nutating (mtype 3-5) the nutating axis and this plane normal

#are aligned to calculate the secondary angle

rotaxis2$ = vecz #Zero

rotdir2$ = vecx #Direction (originally vecy) # this value is responsible for x 03.09.2013

 

#NOTE: Use of 'top_map' requires the dealer match the

# above settings below. These must match initial settings!!!

p_nut_restore #Postblock, restores original axis settings

result = updgbl(rotaxis1$, "vecy") #Zero

result = updgbl(rotdir1$, "-vecx") #Direction

result = updgbl(rotaxis2$, "vecz") #Zero

result = updgbl(rotdir2$, "vecy") #Direction

[MSL]

I think your vectors are wrong.

try this:

 

rotaxis1$ = vecx #Zero

 

rotdir1$ = vecy #Direction

 

 

 

 

 

[segama]

I think your vectors are wrong.

try this:

 

rotaxis1$ = vecx #Zero

 

rotdir1$ = vecy #Direction

 

 

 

Thank you MSL -

Thats works !!!!

[MSL]

You are welcome.

[space7737]

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