new laptop Sager vs Boxx

[Jeremy Herron@DBS Solutions™]

I was about to order my new Sager laptop and ran across Boxx computers. Anyone ever us them? My build price is about 4k different. I assume the intel xeon e5-2697 v2 12-core 2.7ghz processor vs Intel® Core™ i7-4960X Processor Extreme Edition because other than that the build is pretty similar.

 

TIA

[Newbeeee™]

Can't answer your question but have a couple of Dell Precision M6500's here and they're very good (and stable)

[gcode]

I've been looking a water cooled overerclocked Boxx desktop that tips the scales at $8k

but don't know anyone running a Boxx laptop.

I know people running Sager's and they are very happy with them

[huskermcdoogle]

Go with the sager, you can value engineer them a little better I think.  Mine came in at $2800, I didn't take the slider all the way to the right, but I did do very well I think for a 15".

 

 

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Good luck on your quest for a new comp.

[betts]

I am probably one of the people G has heard good things from on Sager. When I bought mine I also got the "zero dead pixel" warranty because on a laptop that is pretty critical. I would buy another. I think BOXX was working a deal with CNC Software, or the resellers as being the "go-to" setup.

 

Whether it holds any weight I don't know, but I have always tried to buy one step older technology than the cutting edge most expensive items. It still is way more cost than what older stuff would be, but there always seems to be an exponential jump when you get to the very latest and fastest.

[Jeremy Herron@DBS Solutions™]

The processors were the only difference in the builds and they are only around 1700 different. I couldn't figure out the other 2400. Just curious really.

[Guest]

I've owned a Sager and it was a great laptop. I had it for about 3 years. It was still competing in the benchmark. Got stolen :mad: :curse:

 

Now I've got a Dell M6800 fully loaded. I got the 2nd fastest chip available at iit's build date. They wouldn't spring for the Extreme version. As it was, it's a $5,500 rig... and worth every penny.

 

NVidia Quadro K5100M @8GB

Windows 7x64 Pro

32GB RAM

Intel i7-4930MX @3.2GHz

256GB SSD Boot Drive

1TB Platter Data Drive

17" Touch Panel screen

 

Scores a 7.6 on the Experience Index.

 

Back to the OP... Sager gets 2 thumbs up IMHO.

[Chris Rizzo]

There recently was a long post about laptops. In a nutshell I've been very happy with Sager's computers, customer service, and general business practice.

[Jeremy Herron@DBS Solutions™]

I pretty well maxed my sager build out and I was happy for 6800. I don't mind the price hike for the latest and greatest. It is a straight right off for me and any additional time it get out of it is money. I just thought there may have been something "really" special about the boxx system. Other than the xeon processocer the only difference in builds I could see was the boxx had a couple extra ports. The xeon sounds nice on the spec sheet, but I haven't used one in quite some time that I prefer over an OC'ed I7 and I have even used some newer double xeon tower builds. I like dell but they won't let me put everything I want in it.

[Jeremy Herron@DBS Solutions™]

30mb cache and 12 cores with 24 threads tepmts my inner geek though.

[Jayson Kramer]

My thought Jeremy, I am with you on this but for the extra $1400.00 with the software you use take advantage of all that. I know some time to just want it as it is cool some time for me gets in the way. lol

But I would say if MC is what you use 60 to 90% of the time before I did that I would talk to CNC and have then tell me will the software even see that many and use it. or is going to only really see 60 cores or less. I know at time it use's my 6 cores but not all the time.

 

JM2C

[The Cathedral]

I've owned a Sager and it was a great laptop. I had it for about 3 years. It was still competing in the benchmark. Got stolen :mad: :curse:

 

Now I've got a Dell M6800 fully loaded. I got the 2nd fastest chip available at iit's build date. They wouldn't spring for the Extreme version. As it was, it's a $5,500 rig... and worth every penny.

 

NVidia Quadro K5100M @8GB

Windows 7x64 Pro

32GB RAM

Intel i7-4930MX @3.2GHz

256GB SSD Boot Drive

1TB Platter Data Drive

17" Touch Panel screen

 

Scores a 7.6 on the Experience Index.

 

Back to the OP... Sager gets 2 thumbs up IMHO.

 

Same machine I'm rockin'. I've got it hooked up to a docking station with two 22" monitors to either side.

[jeff]

I was about to order my new Sager laptop and ran across Boxx computers. Anyone ever us them? My build price is about 4k different. I assume the intel xeon e5-2697 v2 12-core 2.7ghz processor vs Intel® Core™ i7-4960X Processor Extreme Edition because other than that the build is pretty similar.

 

TIA

Boxx (desktops) are EXTREMELY overpriced, but on that note, I've never heard a bad thing about their quality.

As far as Sager goes, everyone I know has loved them, but they are more price friendly.

Haven't visited their site in a while, but Boxx's prices just for adding more memory was omfg unrealistic.

[K2csq7]

The processors were the only difference in the builds and they are only around 1700 different. I couldn't figure out the other 2400. Just curious really.

 

Call Boxx & get their take (biased of course) on it.....

[metalmansteve]

I bought a sager earlier this year largely based on reading this thread (and others)

 

I'm happy overall but it's a beast (17") and the battery life isn't great. Neither of these are a big deal to me because I'm typically at my desk (I mean bar) when using it at home.

 

I bought my wife a macbook for Christmas. The sales guys told me they're good for "3-D CAD" booting it up in Windows. I haven't seen a thread on here about the macbook for several years. Is anyone running mastercam on a macbook? If it runs good on a macbook I would consider it. It's a beautiful machine. No fans on the bottom, super-slick, amazing display and an 8 hour battery life

[jeff]

 Is anyone running mastercam on a macbook? If it runs good on a macbook I would consider it. It's a beautiful machine. No fans on the bottom, super-slick, amazing display and an 8 hour battery life

I think The Evil Machinist uses a Mac, or has used a Mac for Mcam. 

[dstryr]

You guys drop some serious coin on laptops. I picked up a Dell m4700 laptop. Its about 2 years old now. Has built in quadro, 16gb ram, ssd. Scores 6.9 on windows index.

How much extra performance are you getting going from a 2000-2500 laptop to a $5k one?

[BenK]

You guys drop some serious coin on laptops. I picked up a Dell m4700 laptop. Its about 2 years old now. Has built in quadro, 16gb ram, ssd. Scores 6.9 on windows index.

How much extra performance are you getting going from a 2000-2500 laptop to a $5k one?

 

It all comes down to time savings. A higher powered computer will save you a significant amount of time in the long run. Taking a look through the benchmark thread will give you a good idea of you will see. 

[jeff]

 

How much extra performance are you getting going from a 2000-2500 laptop to a $5k one?

 

It all depends on what's inside to be honest.

Some companies like to charge you way too much for their stuff, and some are competitive, so the price needs to reflect what is inside to give you an answer on performance increase.

I wouldn't get a laptop unless it was a last resort (I don't need to be mobile here at my shop), because I can get a desktop of equal performance for just about 1/2 the cost, and if I build it myself, even cheaper.

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

I just bought another Lenovo a month ago online to run Win 8.1 64bit stuff.

It is Brand new in the box but was sold to me as used from a Pawn shop in Mississippi.

(If anyone here lives in Mississippi and is missing a Lenovo laptop I apologize )

[Jayson Kramer]

M4700 is a good High performance laptop if you got the one with a I7 and quadro card and throw a SSD in it. I own a couple of them for Mastercam training at customers. they are not old as the new one that just came out this year is the M4800 and M3800 that is like a MAC pro.

 

metalmansteve, I have one MAC pro setup that way. I truly do not like it as the buttons don't all work the same. mine is the Mac Pro 15.6 version. I am going to replace it with a M3800 I am thinking.

 

[dstryr]

Ya i have the m4700 with quadro 2000 and SSD. Owned it for over 2 years  now. Still very fast.

[huskermcdoogle]

 I am going to replace it with a M3800 I am thinking.

 

 

I wanted this machine as it looks like a solid ultrabook platform,  my main gripe was that they didn't offer it with 32GB of ram.  

[Jayson Kramer]

If I remember on my studies it did support 32 gigs. I will have to check again. Unless it only has two slot not like the M4800 and earlier ones with 4 slots and each support 8 gigs each.

[BenK]

Having a laptop is nice but when you are pushing it all day everyday you really start to see the limitations. When I do a lot of verification or heavy regeneration my CPU temp hits 96ºC really fast. Needless to say it slows it down so it doesn't burn itself up. Next thing on my list to get is building a new liquid cooled computer. That way my laptop can be strictly for when I have to travel.