Anyone Setup a NC Configuration for Code Expert?

[Chaotic5555]

We recently got in new post for the Swiss machines we have at the shop so I've finally been able to help the Swiss department out with some code.  

 

I'd like to setup the Code Expert to be able to run Multi-Streams and even utilize the Align Sync tool within it.  Does anyone have any experience doing this? I've been having a really hard time understanding the format that it uses as search conditions and I was just wondering if there was a guide somewhere.  I would prefer to not export my code in two seperate files and keep it contained to one, just to be able to view it as two. 

Each swiss code uses the header $1 or $2 and the ending code for both is M99. 

The sync codes used are $1L# or $2L# where # is the corresponding number that links the two commands.  

 

Anyone have any suggestions as to how to input this into the NC Configuration in Code Expert? I've attached a picture with what I attempted but when splitting into the Multi-Stream nothing happens and it all stays under one block.  

[crazy^millman]

I think you have to open it through the Multi Stream view to see them in 2 or more streams. Just standard opening will not display the code in the streams. Have you tried that process through the home ribbon in code expert?

[Chaotic5555]

11 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

I think you have to open it through the Multi Stream view to see them in 2 or more streams. Just standard opening will not display the code in the streams. Have you tried that process through the home ribbon in code expert?

Yes, when opening through the Multi-Stream under my current configuration there is no manipulation done to the code.  The picture I posted is my NC Configuration in order to split the program into those separate streams.  Sorry I may have worded it poorly in my original post

[Zaffin_D]

A $ in a regular expression asserts the end of a line, so that’s not going to work.  Escape the $ with a \.

I highly suggest you use a site like regex101.com to help you if you are new to regular expressions.

[crazy^millman]

What are your Sync Point settings? How does the Swiss handle the Wait codes between the Sync Points? On a machine with more than channels you have to SYNC correctly between those streams. You only have 2 streams so it should be pretty straight forward process of syncing. That also plays into the Display Process. Are they separate programs or are the channels handled inside of one program? One a Nakamura Triple turret I have to highlight all 3 separate programs through the MultiStream windows to have it open all 3 and show the SYNC process correctly.

[Chaotic5555]

18 minutes ago, Zaffin_D said:

A $ in a regular expression asserts the end of a line, so that’s not going to work.  Escape the $ with a \.

I highly suggest you use a site like regex101.com to help you if you are new to regular expressions.

This is exactly what I was looking for!! Never dealt with regular expressions looks like this should be fun to mess around with!! 

8 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

What are your Sync Point settings? How does the Swiss handle the Wait codes between the Sync Points? On a machine with more than channels you have to SYNC correctly between those streams. You only have 2 streams so it should be pretty straight forward process of syncing. That also plays into the Display Process. Are they separate programs or are the channels handled inside of one program? One a Nakamura Triple turret I have to highlight all 3 separate programs through the MultiStream windows to have it open all 3 and show the SYNC process correctly.

I'll have to figure out a way to grab the sync codes inside the program using the regular expression stuff that Zaffin referred to.  On the Swiss itself our wait codes are done by calling out the head and then just inputting a number directly after.  When both heads reach that they continue.  

For example: 

$1L1 syncs directly with $2L1

$1L2 syncs directly with $2L2 and so on.  

Worst comes to worst I'll have to just export the code in two separate programs and play around with it from there but ideally this regular expression stuff allows me to sort through one file.  I'll give it a shot and update the thread if I can get it working.  Thanks for the help!! 

[crazy^millman]

1 hour ago, Chaotic5555 said:

This is exactly what I was looking for!! Never dealt with regular expressions looks like this should be fun to mess around with!! 

I'll have to figure out a way to grab the sync codes inside the program using the regular expression stuff that Zaffin referred to.  On the Swiss itself our wait codes are done by calling out the head and then just inputting a number directly after.  When both heads reach that they continue.  

For example: 

$1L1 syncs directly with $2L1

$1L2 syncs directly with $2L2 and so on.  

Worst comes to worst I'll have to just export the code in two separate programs and play around with it from there but ideally this regular expression stuff allows me to sort through one file.  I'll give it a shot and update the thread if I can get it working.  Thanks for the help!! 

Yes that is going to be the issue because code expert is written to support $ as a defined variables in the MP language or end of line. Since you really need it to define a Spindle Variable going to be real tricky to get a Editor written to understand the dollar sign one way to do it a completely different way.

Might look to Cimco Editor Pro it handles Streams. Beyond Compare is a different editor that allows you to write your own scripts and other things.

[Zaffin_D]

8 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

Yes that is going to be the issue because code expert is written to support $ as a defined variables in the MP language or end of line. Since you really need it to define a Spindle Variable going to be real tricky to get a Editor written to understand the dollar sign one way to do it a completely different way.

Might look to Cimco Editor Pro it handles Streams. Beyond Compare is a different editor that allows you to write your own scripts and other things.

Code expert’s highlighting is file dependent; nc files highlight differently than post files.

The $ sign is not a problem, a proper regular expression needs to be used to identify the sync points.

[Chaotic5555]

And we've been successful! 

14 minutes ago, Zaffin_D said:

Code expert’s highlighting is file dependent; nc files highlight differently than post files.

The $ sign is not a problem, a proper regular expression needs to be used to identify the sync points.

This is exactly the case.  The Swiss takes programs as .prg files or program files rather then the typical nc file most other machines use.  I believe the only confusion that will occur is just like Zaffin said where it might highlight a different color.  Regardless it's the first time our Swiss guy has seen color coordinated code and he loves the printouts 

Here is my final product after messing with the Code Expert config.  Overall I think it came out pretty good.  I'll have to play around with multiple sync codes but as far as the first time we've been able to use mastercam to successfully program for the Swiss, it's looking very promising.  

 

If anyone was curious who is looking this thread up in the future, here were my exact values that I set: 

Start Characters (Regular Expressions Checked)      \$[1-2]

End Characters (Regular Expressions UnChecked)   M99

Sync Points (Regular Expressions Checked)               !(1|2)L*

 

This splits the Swiss code into two parts, and leaves out the configuration print at the bottom of the swiss code.  Ideally I was playing around with trying to get 3 parts out of the code, two parts for each primary spindle and then one part for the configurations at the bottom, but I couldn't get it working.  I attempted using (M99|%) as the end expression but for my second line of code it would continue until the % rather then stopping at the M99, essentially leaving me with seeing the configuration at the end of the code twice.  I may play around with it more some other day but for now it seems to work rather well.  You can see the highlighted Red lines for where the spindles would synchronise.

 

Now if only I could get the post to stop trying to open the main spindle in the subspindle code.... 

[crazy^millman]

2 hours ago, Zaffin_D said:

Code expert’s highlighting is file dependent; nc files highlight differently than post files.

The $ sign is not a problem, a proper regular expression needs to be used to identify the sync points.

Okay good to know thank you.

2 hours ago, Chaotic5555 said:

And we've been successful! 

This is exactly the case.  The Swiss takes programs as .prg files or program files rather then the typical nc file most other machines use.  I believe the only confusion that will occur is just like Zaffin said where it might highlight a different color.  Regardless it's the first time our Swiss guy has seen color coordinated code and he loves the printouts 

Here is my final product after messing with the Code Expert config.  Overall I think it came out pretty good.  I'll have to play around with multiple sync codes but as far as the first time we've been able to use mastercam to successfully program for the Swiss, it's looking very promising.  

 

If anyone was curious who is looking this thread up in the future, here were my exact values that I set: 

Start Characters (Regular Expressions Checked)      \$[1-2]

End Characters (Regular Expressions UnChecked)   M99

Sync Points (Regular Expressions Checked)               !(1|2)L*

 

This splits the Swiss code into two parts, and leaves out the configuration print at the bottom of the swiss code.  Ideally I was playing around with trying to get 3 parts out of the code, two parts for each primary spindle and then one part for the configurations at the bottom, but I couldn't get it working.  I attempted using (M99|%) as the end expression but for my second line of code it would continue until the % rather then stopping at the M99, essentially leaving me with seeing the configuration at the end of the code twice.  I may play around with it more some other day but for now it seems to work rather well.  You can see the highlighted Red lines for where the spindles would synchronise.

 

Now if only I could get the post to stop trying to open the main spindle in the subspindle code.... 

Thank you for the feedback really appreciate it when someone takes the time to put that effort into it.

Check your Axis Configuration for the operations. That is normally where this problem happens.

[kevinf88]

On 2/26/2021 at 1:11 PM, Chaotic5555 said:

And we've been successful! 

This is exactly the case.  The Swiss takes programs as .prg files or program files rather then the typical nc file most other machines use.  I believe the only confusion that will occur is just like Zaffin said where it might highlight a different color.  Regardless it's the first time our Swiss guy has seen color coordinated code and he loves the printouts 

Here is my final product after messing with the Code Expert config.  Overall I think it came out pretty good.  I'll have to play around with multiple sync codes but as far as the first time we've been able to use mastercam to successfully program for the Swiss, it's looking very promising.  

 

If anyone was curious who is looking this thread up in the future, here were my exact values that I set: 

Start Characters (Regular Expressions Checked)      \$[1-2]

End Characters (Regular Expressions UnChecked)   M99

Sync Points (Regular Expressions Checked)               !(1|2)L*

 

This splits the Swiss code into two parts, and leaves out the configuration print at the bottom of the swiss code.  Ideally I was playing around with trying to get 3 parts out of the code, two parts for each primary spindle and then one part for the configurations at the bottom, but I couldn't get it working.  I attempted using (M99|%) as the end expression but for my second line of code it would continue until the % rather then stopping at the M99, essentially leaving me with seeing the configuration at the end of the code twice.  I may play around with it more some other day but for now it seems to work rather well.  You can see the highlighted Red lines for where the spindles would synchronise.

 

Now if only I could get the post to stop trying to open the main spindle in the subspindle code.... 

Chaotic5555 I am trying to set this up for my swiss as well and am having no luck. I believe i duplicated your settings but it will not sync. I am using a program from an M machine with 3 channels. Any advice or anything you see in my settings?

[Chaotic5555]

15 minutes ago, kevinf88 said:

Chaotic5555 I am trying to set this up for my swiss as well and am having no luck. I believe i duplicated your settings but it will not sync. I am using a program from an M machine with 3 channels. Any advice or anything you see in my settings?

Hey Kevin,

Just played around with what you have setup on my settings here and I think I found your issue.  Try changing the 'm99' to 'M99'.  Seems like its caps sensitive! 

I just tried it with my program and switched my $0 to $3 to try it.  Seemed to have worked just make sure your 3rd stream has a M99.  Mine doesn't typically because its the Machine Configuration for my L20.

Just out of curiosity what kind of machine do you have that uses 3 Streams?? Hope this helps out though! 

[kevinf88]

2 hours ago, Chaotic5555 said:

Hey Kevin,

Just played around with what you have setup on my settings here and I think I found your issue.  Try changing the 'm99' to 'M99'.  Seems like its caps sensitive! 

I just tried it with my program and switched my $0 to $3 to try it.  Seemed to have worked just make sure your 3rd stream has a M99.  Mine doesn't typically because its the Machine Configuration for my L20.

Just out of curiosity what kind of machine do you have that uses 3 Streams?? Hope this helps out though! 

That worked thanks. Citizen M32s. Did you mess around with syncing the G600s? I am guessing not since L machines can pretty much run in just G600.