How do you describe your Tooling?

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Hi everyone, I am curious how you pros describe your tooling. In particular what kind of acronyms or wording do you use for extended tools. For instance how would you describe a tool that needs a specific extension (ie DA300) with a certain amount of tool projection. It starts to get very verbose and confusing when you have to describe Length of Cut, "Stick Out" and specific holders and extensions. I'm sure LOC is pretty standard, I personally use EFH to stand for Extend(ed) from Holder. But again the problem arises when it's a specific holder with an extension that has to stick out a certain amount with a tool that sticks out of the extension and so on. 

[Leon82]

Extension, stickout. Our setup sheets say stickout.

EOF would be end of flute

When I export the summary notes from camplete it puts a picture of the holder and it will put the extension gauge length and anything you put in the tool description part number. I also have the NC format spit it out under the tool tool description. So if you want to change the tool when you stop it on that tool you'll know exactly what you need to do.

Otherwise it just kind of describe the whole of if it has to be spun back or not flute length when special or standard or stub.

 

 

[JB7280]

17 minutes ago, Leon82 said:

 

We actually have a template, that describes most of the attributes of the tool.  For example, .250EM-5-HT-.5-AlCrn-.03 would be a .25, 5 flute endmill, for high temp alloys, .5 length of cut, AlCrn coating, with a .03" corner rad.

 

We wrote a word doc with a template for each type of tool.

 

There are instances where it's not perfect, but it mostly works.

 

**Edit** and apparently I don't know how to forum, because I tagged the wrong guy, lol.

 

[Leon82]

12 minutes ago, JB7280 said:

We actually have a template, that describes most of the attributes of the tool.  For example, .250EM-5-HT-.5-AlCrn-.03 would be a .25, 5 flute endmill, for high temp alloys, .5 length of cut, AlCrn coating, with a .03" corner rad.

 

We wrote a word doc with a template for each type of tool.

 

There are instances where it's not perfect, but it mostly works.

 

**Edit** and apparently I don't know how to forum, because I tagged the wrong guy, lol.

 

Problem is if you quote somebody and then change your mind there's no way to delete the quote block from your response and the forum saves it so you can never respond again without that quote block

[JB7280]

1 minute ago, Leon82 said:

Problem is if you quote somebody and then change your mind there's no way to delete the quote block from your response and the forum saves it so you can never respond again without that quote block

Yup, I did my best to delete it, but clearly that wasn't possible, lol.

[Colin Gilchrist]

0.500-FLAT_Helical_3-FLT_1.625-LOC_2.750-LBS_4.5-OAL   <  Tool Name

Haimer-Shrink_40.840.3/4Z.4_0.750-ID_EXT-77.3/4Z2.1/2Z  < Holder Name with Extension. 

0.500-FLAT_FIN_2.850-OOH_6.245-GL  < Assembly Name

The "OOH" on the Assembly Name gives the Tool Stickout, from the end of the Holder Assembly. The "LBS" is the Length-Below-Shoulder on the Endmill itself. I'll use a '4 character' Alpha-name for basic tool type; FLAT, BULL, BALL, Etc. For a Bull Tool, I'd add something like 0.030-RAD to the description. 142-ANG for Drills, or 90-DEG for Chamfer Mills (always the Included Angle of the Tip, no matter what type of tool).

It lets more complicated when you have a tool with Carbide Inserts, especially those pesky drills that use two different inserts at the tip. You have the Tool Holder, Tool Body, Inserts, and Grade to worry about. At least some of the Tool Data fields are finally available in 2022. This makes it easier to enter more data on the Setup Sheet, Tool List, and NC Code (through the Post).

[So not a Guru]

I have Active Reports pull the data from the tool page, then the operators have all the info they need on the setup sheet.

[gms1]

I setup my setup sheet a long time ago. Now I just adjust the info I display based on who I am working with and how skilled they are. I just setup my tools correctly in mastercam once and hit the report button.

[JParis]

This is part of the package I supply to the floor

https://www.dropbox.com/s/phd17mirqnahslb/65341p05 base - raid-xe - tools.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/805dm267keslb0d/65341p05 base - raid-xe - tool assy.pdf?dl=0

and this posts as part of the program header

Quote

(T11010500 / 1/2 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.703)
     (DESTINY / V33220S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.700 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15013893 / 3/8 X .093R BULLNOSE / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.113)
     (DESTINY / V32416SR093S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.100 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11010375 / 3/8 3FL 1.50 LOC ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.150)
     (DESTINY / V32424S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.550 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T34010500 / 1/2 3FL X 2.125 REACH / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.950)
     (DESTINY / V3321017S / MIN TOOL EXT -2.200 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11010625 / 5/8 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.950)
     (DESTINY / V34032S / MIN TOOL EXT -2.100 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T59010193 / .1929 CARBIDE DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.023)
     (KENNAMETAL / 4150544 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.200 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T59010177 / .1772 CARBIDE DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.915)
     (KENNAMETAL / 4151126 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.300 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11010188 / 3/16 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.028)
     (DESTINY / V31206S / MIN TOOL EXT -.950 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11010250 / 1/4 ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.037)
     (DESTINY / V31608S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15012560 / 1/4 X .06R BULLNOSE / MIN Z DEPTH: -.890)
     (DESTINY / V31612R060S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.100 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11020188 / 3/16 3FL F-ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.758)
     (DESTINY / V31209S / MIN TOOL EXT -.700 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11030188 / 3/16 X 1.00 LOC ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.955)
     (DESTINY / V31216S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.100 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11020250 / 1/4 X .75 LOC 3FL ENDMILL  / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.085)
     (DESTINY / V31612S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.150 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15010015 / .093 X .015R 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.292)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 867293 / MIN TOOL EXT -.500 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15011930 / 3/16 X .03R BULLNOSE / MIN Z DEPTH: -.640)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 46730 / MIN TOOL EXT -.750 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11010125 / 1/8 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.955)
     (DESTINY / V30808S / MIN TOOL EXT -.550 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15011220 / 1/8 X .02R BULLNOSE / MIN Z DEPTH: -.182)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 833420 / MIN TOOL EXT -.620 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T42010093 / .093 X .375 3FL LR ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.465)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 945593 / MIN TOOL EXT -.550 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T39010039 / .039 X .117 LR ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.443)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 47839 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T11010062 / 1/16 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.290)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 823062 / MIN TOOL EXT -.550 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T42010062 / 1/16 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.370)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 945562 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T34010047 / .047 LR ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.395)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 945547 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15016260 / 5/8 X .06R LF BULLNOSE / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.878)
     (DESTINY / V34026R060S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.850 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010188 / 3/16 BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.930)
     (DESTINY / BV21206S / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010125 / 1/8 BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.950)
     (DESTINY / BV20805S / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13020093 / .093 3FL X .75 REACH BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.896)
     (TOOL MANUFACTURER / 34293 / MIN TOOL EXT -.850 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010062 / .062 LR BALL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.765)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 33462 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010047 / .047 X . 141 REACH BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.215)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 47947 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13020047 / .047 3FL BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.309)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 868247 / MIN TOOL EXT -.750 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010031 / .031 3FL BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.325)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 966031 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T32011890 / 3/16 X 90 DEG DRILL/MILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.695)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 15312-2 / MIN TOOL EXT -.700 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T15019430 / 3/32 X .03R 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.240)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 958893 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T33010590 / .500 X 90 DA CUTTER / MIN Z DEPTH: -.245)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 838832 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.250 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T22013835 / .375 X .035 KS CUTTER / MIN Z DEPTH: -.156)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 22512 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.100 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T67010120 / NO. 31 JOBBER DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.200)
     (PRECISION TWIST DRILL / 018131 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T39010118 / 3MM LR ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.205)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 982205 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.200 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T32010290 / 1/4 X 90 DEGREE MILL/DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.665)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 15316-2 / MIN TOOL EXT -.800 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T61010125 / 1/8 X 90 DEG SPOT DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.891)
     (FULLERTON / 15450 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T47010290 / .290 X 32 PITCH THREADMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.530)
     (SCIENTIFIC / TM290-32H / MIN TOOL EXT -.900 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T22013762 / .312 X .062 KEYSEAT / MIN Z DEPTH: -1.052)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 69730 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.200 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T22011847 / 3/16 X .047 X .562 KEYSEAT / MIN Z DEPTH: -.495)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 43747 / MIN TOOL EXT -.850 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T61010093 / .093 X 90 DEG SPOT DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.290)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 11493 / MIN TOOL EXT -.750 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T67010078 / 5/64 JOBBER DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.580)
     (PRECISION TWIST DRILL / 46480754 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.200 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T67010055 / NO. 54 JOBBER DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.711)
     (PRECISION TWIST DRILL / 46480746 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T78010047 / 3/64 FLAT BOTTOM DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.263)
     (HARVEY TOOL / FBD0468-C3 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T67010094 / 3/32 JOBBER DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.210)
     (PRECISION TWIST DRILL / 46480761 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.625 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T67010064 / NO. 52 JOBBER DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.445)
     (PRECISION TWIST DRILL / 018152 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.150 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T67010081 / .081 JOBBER DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.414)
     (PRECISION TWIST DRILL / 018146 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.250 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T78010078 / .0781 FLAT BOTTOM DRILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.975)
     (HARVEY TOOL / FBD0781-C3 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T73010080 / 0-80 CUTTING TAP RH / MIN Z DEPTH: -.238)
     (EMUGE / BU513500.5033 / MIN TOOL EXT -.850 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T71010080 / 0-80 ROLLTAP BH5 / MIN Z DEPTH: -.665)
     (BALAX / 10005-000 / MIN TOOL EXT -.850 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T71010256 / 2-56 ROLLTAP BH5 - RH / MIN Z DEPTH: -.945)
     (BALAX / 10285-010 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T73012545 / M2.5 X .45 CUTTING TAP  / MIN Z DEPTH: -.390)
     (REGAL CUTTING TOOLS / 030233TC / MIN TOOL EXT -.850 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010093 / .093 2FL BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.359)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 24593 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T42010031 / .031 3FL ENDMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.233)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 33231 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T13010039 / 1MM 2FL BALLMILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.090)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 24539 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T22010062 / .375 X .031R FR KEYSEAT / MIN Z DEPTH: -.765)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 68431 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.250 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T23010125 / 1/8 X 90 DEG CMFR MILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.925)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 18745 / MIN TOOL EXT -.950 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T23010062 / .062 X 90 DEG CMFR MILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.663)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 853945 / MIN TOOL EXT -.750 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T48011582 / 5/32 X 82 DEG DRILL/MILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.163)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 26510 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T48019482 / .093 X 82 DEG DRILL/MILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.305)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 949406 / MIN TOOL EXT -.750 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T33010090 / .125 X 90 DA CUTTER / MIN Z DEPTH: -.121)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 19201 / MIN TOOL EXT -.650 / CRIB LOCATION)

(T17010500 / .500 DOVETAIL MILL / MIN Z DEPTH: -.080)
     (HARVEY TOOL / 16832 / MIN TOOL EXT -1.000 / CRIB LOCATION)

 

[Metallic]

On 7/16/2021 at 5:44 AM, JParis said:

This is part of the package I supply to the floor

https://www.dropbox.com/s/phd17mirqnahslb/65341p05 base - raid-xe - tools.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/805dm267keslb0d/65341p05 base - raid-xe - tool assy.pdf?dl=0

and this posts as part of the program header

 

LOL can you explain those tool numbers to me? Does the operator literally call up M06 T11010375?

 

That is crazy if so. Any reason for doing this outside of just having a boatload of tools to manage?

 

I am actively working on developing my master tool list (always working on it but this is a major overhaul) so I am very interested in seeing how others are working their reporting and tooling management. I was explaining to my wife how complex something like a tool list can be and she was initially like "but, its just a tool list that sounds easy!"....getting into digital twins, accurate data, managing all that data so that it is living and not static, all of these things take a lot of thought and effort to get right. 

 

I am impressed with Jparis' output here!

 

Thanks

[JParis]

1 minute ago, Metallic said:

LOL can you explain those tool numbers to me? Does the operator literally call up M06 T11010375?

 

That is crazy if so. Any reason for doing this outside of just having a boatload of tools to manage?

 

I am actively working on developing my master tool list (always working on it but this is a major overhaul) so I am very interested in seeing how others are working their reporting and tooling management. I was explaining to my wife how complex something like a tool list can be and she was initially like "but, its just a tool list that sounds easy!"....getting into digital twins, accurate date, managing all that data so that it is living and not static, all of these things take a lot of thought and effort to get right. 

 

I am impressed with Jparis' output here!

 

Thanks

They are group numbers...they are linked in the control to the actual toolpot...we use the tool life option in these HMC Mazak controls...

Yes, it is posted as you see, when the tool is defined in the control it is linked to the tool pot.

G20
G0G17G40G49G80G90
G0G28G91Z0.
M00
()
IF[#925EQ3]GOTO88001
()
(1/2 3FL ENDMILL TOOL - 11010500 DIA. OFF. - 51999 LEN. - 51999 TOOL DIA. - .5)
(1/2 ENDMILL / R-F-MILL SIDE STEPS MILL .650 WIDE  / Z-.080)
(MAX Z DEPTH - Z1.)
(MIN Z DEPTH - Z-1.7025)
(OPERATION #1)
N1000
T11010500M6
IF[#925NE0]GOTO80001
T15013893
N80001
G90G10L10P#51999R0
G90G10L12P#51999R0
S18000M3
M8

>

>

>

N88001
()
IF[#925EQ1]GOTO88002
()
G0G17G40G80G90G94G98
G0G28G91Z0.
(3/8 X .093R BULLNOSE TOOL - 15013893 DIA. OFF. - 51999 LEN. - 51999 TOOL DIA. - .375)
(3/8 X .093 BULLNOSE / ROUGH OUTER SHAPE / Z-.4745***NEW-4-19-21)
(MAX Z DEPTH - Z1.)
(MIN Z DEPTH - Z-1.1135)
(OPERATION #23)
N1100
T15013893M6
IF[#925NE0]GOTO80002
T11010375
N80002
G90G10L10P#51999R0
G90G10L12P#51999R0
S18000M3
M8

[[email protected]]

Hey I am back for an additional question related to this....I have two Parlec ER-16 holders they have the same extension length but for some reason(probably thru spindle or flange spec related) different info lasered on them: Parlec C40-16ER2 ***** USA   VS   Parlec C40-16ER262 37339 USA. What would you recommend, is it worth it to name both holders into the Database and have completely accurate inventory or does that seem like a waste of time. Anyway I just don't want too many diminishing returns while making this master tool database. Is there some kind of ISO standard for tool list creation out there.... Maybe I should go check out that Bob W. post about tool lists I recall it being rather extensive.

[crazy^millman]

41 minutes ago, [email protected] said:

Hey I am back for an additional question related to this....I have two Parlec ER-16 holders they have the same extension length but for some reason(probably thru spindle or flange spec related) different info lasered on them: Parlec C40-16ER2 ***** USA   VS   Parlec C40-16ER262 37339 USA. What would you recommend, is it worth it to name both holders into the Database and have completely accurate inventory or does that seem like a waste of time. Anyway I just don't want too many diminishing returns while making this master tool database. Is there some kind of ISO standard for tool list creation out there.... Maybe I should go check out that Bob W. post about tool lists I recall it being rather extensive.

They are collet holders and depending on the size tool in them they will read different values. Kind of what I would expect. I got into a huge disagreement with a rocket builder one time when they kept trying to give me ER-32 holders for endmills and I refused to run the project with them. They over ruled me and ran the parts with the ER-32 and guess what happened when they changed the endmill after the 1 hour change time needed for cutting the Inconel part worth over $10,000,00. They didn't think they would change in length and they did and they also pulled out nearly scrapping it. I was there and hit the emergency stop and had a grievance filed against me by the union steward for interfering with the running of a machine. I didn't and still don't care about that grievance being filed it was the right call and I stand by it after all these years. 

[[email protected]]

I understand and agree.... I think I may have touched on a sore subject by accident. Let me clarify some, because it seems I might have been a bit confusing. These are two holders I have in the shop, they have the same projection length and they are both ER16 Collet holders. But they have different Names/Descriptions etched on them, so I was just curious if you all would bother entering them into you tool library seperately. Hope that makes more sense. I did enjoy your story, although it doesn't sound like you enjoyed it when it occured. 

P.S. I get caught off guard at first when people reply with explanations I feel are for beginners, but then must remember we don't always know eachothers experience and skillsets. Also I feel for educational purposes of others it also makes sense to reply with explanations that everyone can understand. I just felt I had to say this because my first reaction to you reply was: WTF this guys thinks I don't know what a collet is...lol

[Zoffen]

How many holders are the wrong item number?

1? throw it away? Use it as a tool that will not get broken down so there is no confusion in the future

or

Use both of the item numbers as so "C40-16ER2*****\C40-16ER262 37339" in the ToolDB

[crazy^millman]

15 hours ago, [email protected] said:

I understand and agree.... I think I may have touched on a sore subject by accident. Let me clarify some, because it seems I might have been a bit confusing. These are two holders I have in the shop, they have the same projection length and they are both ER16 Collet holders. But they have different Names/Descriptions etched on them, so I was just curious if you all would bother entering them into you tool library seperately. Hope that makes more sense. I did enjoy your story, although it doesn't sound like you enjoyed it when it occured. 

P.S. I get caught off guard at first when people reply with explanations I feel are for beginners, but then must remember we don't always know eachothers experience and skillsets. Also I feel for educational purposes of others it also makes sense to reply with explanations that everyone can understand. I just felt I had to say this because my first reaction to you reply was: WTF this guys thinks I don't know what a collet is...lol

Sorry I didn't understand what you were meaning. I would erase the wording off one of them and etch the name you like on both and call it a day.

I thought you were referring to Gauge length because of the laser comment.  Note to self reread things few more times to avoid understanding it wrong. 

Also didn't mean to offend, but yeah the grievance ending up costing my company $4 million worth of work over 5 years it would have kept 10 people busy.

 

[[email protected]]

Thanks... yes re etching/labeling them would be a good way to avoid confusion. I was also considering just having the names in the Database as generic as possible like: ER16 2.50  But I don't like how some of out ER16 collet nuts vary in Dia. So I would have to base everything off the largest. Also it drives me nuts that some of the holders from Accupro say 2.50" projection but their drawing for the holder shows 54.4mm(2.1417"). Why do they do this? on second thought looking at the picture I am hoping its 2.5" to the end with the cap on....not sure if that drawing has cap on or off

[gms1]

I used to be specific in labeling holders when I made my library but I removed the part numbers and now use a generic labeling system like you see in my post above. If you are going to specific the best way to go is to make your own numbering system and mark /barcode them all. You won't be able to handle this holder company getting bought by that company and they change everything from EDP to part names. I prefer the generic name system myself.

[crazy^millman]

1 hour ago, gms1 said:

I used to be specific in labeling holders when I made my library but I removed the part numbers and now use a generic labeling system like you see in my post above. If you are going to specific the best way to go is to make your own numbering system and mark /barcode them all. You won't be able to handle this holder company getting bought by that company and they change everything from EDP to part names. I prefer the generic name system myself.

Good Point a lot of the biggest customers use their own barcode or labeling systems since they may get an ER holder for their CAT50 machines from 10 different Vendors. As long as the ER-32 Holder is a 5" Gauge Length then it can be from any manufacture.

[gms1]

11 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

Good Point a lot of the biggest customers use their own barcode or labeling systems since they may get an ER holder for their CAT50 machines from 10 different Vendors. As long as the ER-32 Holder is a 5" Gauge Length then it can be from any manufacture.

That is what I deal with now. They buy whatever holder is the cheapest or the flavor of the day. So I have parlec, teckniks, erickson, yg, briney, etc.....

They all have similar or the same gauge length so I go with generic. In my pic above that is 1/2 end mill holder (EM), 9" projection (9PJ), and a cat 50 holder (CT50).