Data Server FTP Questions

[huskermcdoogle]

Guys,

 

I just got a Data Server installed on a Fanuc 16 (not 16i) on a Mori SH500. Anyway, I can access the folder on a pc based ftp server and get programs in and out from the control. But would like to be able to do it the other way around. I know on the 18i, you can use an FTP Client on a PC to access the data server and move files in and out, haven't been successful in doing so with our other machine, but would like to know how. Anyway, does anyone know what the default username and passwords are to do this, or what you need to do to set them, or use this functionality. I am not dead in the water right now but my curiosity is killing me...

 

 

Husker

[GoetzInd]

Paging James....

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

You rang???

HTH

Operation of Fanuc DataServer on a Fanuc16 control

Setup:

1) Finding DS setup screen

a) Press System button

Press right arrow soft key three times

c) Press (DS-SET) soft key

d) Press (OPRT) soft key

The display should show setting screen 1. Soft keys should be:

[string] [Lock] [input] [Check] [set]

2) Initializing hard drive

Caution- this should only be done on start up. Initializing or

formatting the hard drive will erase all files in the

Dataserver.

a) Press soft key [Check]

Press soft key [Format]

c) Press soft key [Exec]-you will be asked ”Hard Disk Format?”.

(at this point you can still back out.)

d) Press [Exec] again. All files on the hard disk will be erased.

3) DataServer setting screen-1

This is host computer information

a) Use up and down arrow keys to highlight IP address field.

Input a number in the format 0.0.0.0 the number is

unimportant as long as it follows the correct format and

matches the IP address of the Ethernet communications

software in the host computer. We are currently using

129.1.0.7. After typing in the number press the [input] key

Arrow down to “USER”. This is the host computer name. We

use DATSERVE . Type in -press [input].

c) Arrow down to “Password”. Enter the same way as above.

Currently we are not using any password. This field is

blank.

d) Arrow down to “Host directory”. This is the directory and

path in the host computer. The path must be exactly as in

the host computer. We have created a directory called

DATSERVE on the “C” drive. This field reads “/DATSERVE”.

e) After all fields have been input. Press the [set] softkey. You

have to press the set key or none of the information will be

saved.

3) Data server setting screen-2. This is dataserver information.

a) From setting screen-1. Press the page down button to

display setting screen-2.

Highlight “MAC address”-This is a number printed on a seal

found on the face of the DataServer module inside the

control cabinet. This address consists of 12 alphanumeric

letters. Type in the address and press [input].

c) Arrow down to “IP address”-This number must also be in the

format 0.0.0.0. This number must be unique to each machine

so that the network can identify individual machines. we

are using 129.1.0.5.

d) Arrow down to mask address. Input 255.255.0.0

e) Again, press the [set] soft key to save all info.

4) Setting up software in host computer.

Note: This information is provided so that Mori engineers may

set up their own computers and have some idea how the

software works when assisting customers. However, Mori

Seiki is not responsible for setting up or making the

connections for customers’ networks. They should obtain

the services of a network administrator for this service.

We are using “LAN workplace 5” by NOVELL for our communications software.

a) Once the software is installed, open the configuration menu.

You are only concerned with “ADAPTER” and “TCP/IP”.

Open ADAPTER

Here you must know the brand name of the Ethernet

communications card you are using.

c) Click on the arrow to open the list of brand names.

Click on the one you are using. All other fields should be

automatically set once you choose a card.

d) Open TCP/IP/

Under “addressing”

“Load LAN WP TCP/IP” should be on.

“ BOOTP” should be off.

Enter the IP address (same as IP address in setting screen-1)

129.1.0.7

Subnet mask-blank

Domain mask-blank

DNS IP address (same as setting screen-2)

1st 129.1.0.5

2nd blank

3rd blank

Routing

1st blank

2nd blank

3rd blank

e) Click OK and save all settings

This should be all the configuration you need to do.

5) Opening the connection

a) Click on IP resolver

Click on ping

“Responded” should appear in the blank field within a few

seconds. if it does not, the connection is no good.

c) Close IP resolver

d) Click on “FTP SERVER”

It will look like nothing is happening for 60 seconds or

more. During this time the computer is making the

connection to the DataServer. One way to check if it is

through, is to click “ file” on the upper tool bar. If it is

still working on the connection, nothing will happen.

When it is finished, the file menu will appear. The computer

is now connected to the DataServer.

6) Downloading a file from the computer to the DataServer.

a) Place the file you wish to load in the datserve directory

of the host computer. This file must be in the format Oxxxx. Ex. O0001

Place the machine control in EDIT mode

c) Press program hard key

d) Press right arrow key once

e) Press [DS-DIR.] softkey

A screen containing program numbers and descriptions

will appear. Soft keys will be:

[Get] [Put] [Delete] [search] [Change]

f) [Get] gets a program from the host computer

g) [Put] puts a program into the host computer

h) [Delete] deletes a program from the data server

i) [search] searches for a program on the dataserver

j) [Change] switches between two screens- the initial screen

containing program numbers and descriptors and screen 2

containing program numbers, program size, date, and time

the file was loaded.

k) Type in the file name to download.

l) Press [get]-file is loaded

7) Uploading from machine to computer

a) Type in file to send

Press [Put]- file is uploaded

8) Downloading a program from DataServer to machine

memory.

Note: Machine memory must be sufficient to hold the

program being loaded from the dataserver.

a) On setting page- i/o channel (par. #20) must be set to 5

Edit mode

c) Program hard key

d) [Read] soft key

e) Program no. [Exec]

9) Uploading a program from machine memory to the

dataserver.

a) Same as (8) except for [Punch] soft key.

10) Running a program from DataServer

a) I/O channel (par#20) must be set to 5

Write a program in machine memory with format:

Oxxxx

M198 pyyyy (DataServer program)

M30

c)Cycle start

11) Error messages

When an error occurs during “getting” or “putting”, get

error or put error will flash with no accompanying

message. To see error message.

a) Press Message hard key

Press right arrow softkey twice

c) Press [DS-MSG] softkey

DataServer message will be displayed

12) Hardware requirements for one computer and one

DataServer.

a) Ethernet card for computer (3com, Intel etc.)

MAU (medium attachment unit) -transceiver-plugs into

dataserver. TDK corp. ciu-1000 Ethernet transceiver or

equivalent. Should be set up for ieee802.3 standard

(heartbeat function). We are using “Magnum CT1 Mini

Transceiver”.

c) Transceiver cable-50 meters or less

d) Transceiver cable terminators (2)

For more information or detail please consult Fanuc DataServer operators

manual no. b-62694en/02

 

[huskermcdoogle]

Thank you james, I have been able to get this far. Just curious if I can do the file transfer in the other direction. A.k. from the PC not at the machine control? Am I smoking something in thinking I can do it this way?

 

Husker

[beck250]

Hi James,

I actually have a similar question. I have a Mori Seiki sv-503 with a fanuc 16i controller. Right now the only way i can load programs is to use FTP software from a remote computer. I would like to be able to load them right from my controller, but I'm not sure how to set it up to do this. Any information you would be willing to share would be great.

 

Thanks

[Allan]

As I understand the Fanuc Data server.

The Controller runs a FTP server a well as an FTP client.

To transfer fron the machine (get a file from a remote computer) you need to run a FTP server on that remote computer.

You can use the FTP server that is built into windows, or use one of the freeware versions. (I use Filezilla cause I like it and it is easy to configure)

 

Allan

[beck250]

Allan

 

I do use Filezilla as well, but I have to go to the computer, open Filezilla, and connect to the machine each time I need to transfer a program. What I want to be able to do is stand at my control and load the programs from there. Is there something I need to configure differently? I'm sure I am just not understanding something completely.

 

thanks,

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

You should be able to go both directions.

 

YOu need to set up the user name and password on the Dataserver Side then you put that info in FileZilla and it should go from PC to Machine. To go from Machine to PC, you need to have the host username and password, location it should look for programs like C:\Dataserv. The computer user's username (jdoe) and password (******) needs to be setup on the machine also, otherwise the PC won;t let the machine in.

[huskermcdoogle]

Allan

 

I do use Filezilla as well, but I have to go to the computer, open Filezilla, and connect to the machine each time I need to transfer a program. What I want to be able to do is stand at my control and load the programs from there. Is there something I need to configure differently? I'm sure I am just not understanding something completely.

 

thanks,

 

Beck, does your 503 have mapps? If it does, it is a cake job to do it from the control, and actually is very easy to use once you get around how to use the functions. I could walk you through it sometime if you want over the phone. I want to do just what you are doing... How is your ftp client (not server) set up on the pc?

[neurosis]

Allan

 

I do use Filezilla as well, but I have to go to the computer, open Filezilla, and connect to the machine each time I need to transfer a program. What I want to be able to do is stand at my control and load the programs from there. Is there something I need to configure differently? I'm sure I am just not understanding something completely.

 

thanks,

 

 

Are you confusing filezilla client with filezilla ftpd? You have to set up a ftpd on your "host" pc.

[Allan]

There is a filezilla server application as well as a filezilla client application.

So to do the transfering from the control you would need to run the filezilla server application on the PC.

 

Allan

[beck250]

Do I need to run my machine through a router? The way it is set up now the CAT 5 cable from the machine runs directly into its own network card on the PC.

 

Huskermcdoogle- My pc currently has a seperate network card that is directly hooked to my machine. Are there any spacific settings you were wondering about.

[huskermcdoogle]

Do I need to run my machine through a router? The way it is set up now the CAT 5 cable from the machine runs directly into its own network card on the PC.

 

Huskermcdoogle- My pc currently has a seperate network card that is directly hooked to my machine. Are there any spacific settings you were wondering about.

 

 

If you can go one way you can go the other with the way you have your Network setup. Sounds like you need to setup a FTP server client on the PC. Then setup the fanuc settings for the data server so it can log into your newly created ftp server. James instructions explain how to set this up... If you have mapps..., you will need some instructions on how to use the mapps remote server screen.

 

Husker

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Do I need to run my machine through a router? The way it is set up now the CAT 5 cable from the machine runs directly into its own network card on the PC.

 

Huskermcdoogle- My pc currently has a seperate network card that is directly hooked to my machine. Are there any spacific settings you were wondering about.

Communications/Network Connections 101 ; Unless you're using an Orange Crossover cable, you cannot connect one device to another via wire. You have to go through something else. Really, the best way to go is to plug from the machine into a switch or hub that is connected to your network, then you can access the machine from anywhere in the shop as long as you have the passowrd and username. Plugging directly into a router is not necessary unless you have the Dataserver setup in DHCP Mode and there is not a device on the network issuing IP addresses.

 

HTH

[Gov'ner]

We are doing something similar. We use a DNC program to pull the G-code file from our server to a PC. From there we have an FTP service setup and pull the file into the controller using a crossover cable. We have this set up on roughly 20 routers, but on a couple when trying to ping the PC from the controller we get an error. Ping service error [224]. I called Fanuc for support, but nothing they suggested cleared the error. Any ideas?

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Never seen that error before. :shrug: sorry.

[static99899]

 

You rang???

 

HTH

 

Operation of Fanuc DataServer on a Fanuc16 control

Setup:

1) Finding DS setup screen

a) Press System button

 Press right arrow soft key three times

c) Press (DS-SET) soft key

d) Press (OPRT) soft key

The display should show setting screen 1. Soft keys should be:

[string] [Lock] [input] [Check] [set]

2) Initializing hard drive

Caution- this should only be done on start up. Initializing or

formatting the hard drive will erase all files in the

Dataserver.

a) Press soft key [Check]

Press soft key [Format]

c) Press soft key [Exec]-you will be asked ”Hard Disk Format?”.

(at this point you can still back out.)

d) Press [Exec] again. All files on the hard disk will be erased.

3) DataServer setting screen-1

This is host computer information

a) Use up and down arrow keys to highlight IP address field.

Input a number in the format 0.0.0.0 the number is

unimportant as long as it follows the correct format and

matches the IP address of the Ethernet communications

software in the host computer. We are currently using

129.1.0.7. After typing in the number press the [input] key

Arrow down to “USER”. This is the host computer name. We

use DATSERVE . Type in -press [input].

c) Arrow down to “Password”. Enter the same way as above.

Currently we are not using any password. This field is

blank.

d) Arrow down to “Host directory”. This is the directory and

path in the host computer. The path must be exactly as in

the host computer. We have created a directory called

DATSERVE on the “C” drive. This field reads “/DATSERVE”.

e) After all fields have been input. Press the [set] softkey. You

have to press the set key or none of the information will be

saved.

3) Data server setting screen-2. This is dataserver information.

a) From setting screen-1. Press the page down button to

display setting screen-2.

Highlight “MAC address”-This is a number printed on a seal

found on the face of the DataServer module inside the

control cabinet. This address consists of 12 alphanumeric

letters. Type in the address and press [input].

c) Arrow down to “IP address”-This number must also be in the

format 0.0.0.0. This number must be unique to each machine

so that the network can identify individual machines. we

are using 129.1.0.5.

d) Arrow down to mask address. Input 255.255.0.0

e) Again, press the [set] soft key to save all info.

4) Setting up software in host computer.

Note: This information is provided so that Mori engineers may

set up their own computers and have some idea how the

software works when assisting customers. However, Mori

Seiki is not responsible for setting up or making the

connections for customers’ networks. They should obtain

the services of a network administrator for this service.

We are using “LAN workplace 5” by NOVELL for our communications software.

a) Once the software is installed, open the configuration menu.

You are only concerned with “ADAPTER” and “TCP/IP”.

Open ADAPTER

Here you must know the brand name of the Ethernet

communications card you are using.

c) Click on the arrow to open the list of brand names.

Click on the one you are using. All other fields should be

automatically set once you choose a card.

d) Open TCP/IP/

Under “addressing”

“Load LAN WP TCP/IP” should be on.

“ BOOTP” should be off.

Enter the IP address (same as IP address in setting screen-1)

129.1.0.7

Subnet mask-blank

Domain mask-blank

DNS IP address (same as setting screen-2)

1st 129.1.0.5

2nd blank

3rd blank

Routing

1st blank

2nd blank

3rd blank

e) Click OK and save all settings

This should be all the configuration you need to do.

5) Opening the connection

a) Click on IP resolver

Click on ping

“Responded” should appear in the blank field within a few

seconds. if it does not, the connection is no good.

c) Close IP resolver

d) Click on “FTP SERVER”

It will look like nothing is happening for 60 seconds or

more. During this time the computer is making the

connection to the DataServer. One way to check if it is

through, is to click “ file” on the upper tool bar. If it is

still working on the connection, nothing will happen.

When it is finished, the file menu will appear. The computer

is now connected to the DataServer.

6) Downloading a file from the computer to the DataServer.

a) Place the file you wish to load in the datserve directory

of the host computer. This file must be in the format Oxxxx. Ex. O0001

Place the machine control in EDIT mode

c) Press program hard key

d) Press right arrow key once

e) Press [DS-DIR.] softkey

A screen containing program numbers and descriptions

will appear. Soft keys will be:

[Get] [Put] [Delete] [search] [Change]

f) [Get] gets a program from the host computer

g) [Put] puts a program into the host computer

h) [Delete] deletes a program from the data server

i) [search] searches for a program on the dataserver

j) [Change] switches between two screens- the initial screen

containing program numbers and descriptors and screen 2

containing program numbers, program size, date, and time

the file was loaded.

k) Type in the file name to download.

l) Press [get]-file is loaded

7) Uploading from machine to computer

a) Type in file to send

Press [Put]- file is uploaded

8) Downloading a program from DataServer to machine

memory.

Note: Machine memory must be sufficient to hold the

program being loaded from the dataserver.

a) On setting page- i/o channel (par. #20) must be set to 5

Edit mode

c) Program hard key

d) [Read] soft key

e) Program no. [Exec]

9) Uploading a program from machine memory to the

dataserver.

a) Same as (8) except for [Punch] soft key.

10) Running a program from DataServer

a) I/O channel (par#20) must be set to 5

Write a program in machine memory with format:

Oxxxx

M198 pyyyy (DataServer program)

M30

c)Cycle start

11) Error messages

When an error occurs during “getting” or “putting”, get

error or put error will flash with no accompanying

message. To see error message.

a) Press Message hard key

Press right arrow softkey twice

c) Press [DS-MSG] softkey

DataServer message will be displayed

12) Hardware requirements for one computer and one

DataServer.

a) Ethernet card for computer (3com, Intel etc.)MAU (medium attachment unit) -transceiver-plugs into

dataserver. TDK corp. ciu-1000 Ethernet transceiver or

equivalent. Should be set up for ieee802.3 standard

(heartbeat function). We are using “Magnum CT1 Mini

Transceiver”.

c) Transceiver cable-50 meters or less

d) Transceiver cable terminators (2)

For more information or detail please consult Fanuc DataServer operators

manual no. b-62694en/02

 

 

I've tried Filezilla and Windows 7 built in FTP client and am still getting incorrect username or password 530 error at the control.  It's a Makino V55 with the PRO3 (16) Fanuc control.  I've tried changing usernames  and passwords on both ends and still nothing.  can't get or put.  Ideas?  Also, is there any way to blank out the memory on the Data server board?  Is is possible that I have multiple passwords together?  it won't let you see the password once you enter one and leave the screen.  it's always blank when I come back to screen-1.

[Tim Johnson]

The password will be what you see when you first enter it. Are you trying to pull files from a server at the control or using a pc to "drag and drop" files on your Data Server? I've never seen an error at the control from a "drag and drop" but if that's what your doing check your Host Type or whatever your software calls it . We use FTP Pro. Standard Unix type works very well here.

[Fabio1]

Hello all

I have a Fanuc 32i controller connected direct to pc through Ethernet cable. filezila on the pc and name and password set I/O channel set to 9, ip address of pc is 192.xxx.1.142

and controller is 192.xxx.1.2. mask is 255.255.0.0.

I can see the files only when I first connect the pc to controller with Ethernet. I can create a folder but that is it . I can not GET a program or PUT. nor do I see those soft keys. Any idea what I am doing wrong? Do I need a cross over cable for this? I can only ping once form pc and/or controller. after that no reponse.

Thanks

[huskermcdoogle]

If you are direct connected you need a crossover cable.   I wouldn't think though that if you didn't have a crossover that you would be able to ping...

[civiceg]

I don't believe a cross over cable is needed on the newer FANUC stuff. 

[Guest]

I always use one (crossover) or a small switch I carry... because it's good form. 

[Fabio1]

Thanks found a cross over cable going to give it a try in the morning. I also noticed an IP address in the DNS IP ADDRESS 1. can not seem to get rid of it. tried 0 then input and it said wrong format. is there a parameter setting to clear everything?

 

[Guest]

Space and input clears the field. It may be Shift + B.

[Fabio1]

Gave up and brought in an old router. I can see and transfer files with Fget and Pset then exec.  However I still have no DSVRHOST ,DSVR , GET or PUT?