I found an issue !!

[Robert Barton]

In X9, with the latest service pack, I think it #3 I have found a Problem

 

 

When I go to modify a solid, say put a hole in the solid I go to Solid Extrude, in the Basic tab there are 3 "Types"

 

Create body

Cut body

Add boss

 

It seems that Add boss actually does what Cut body should do and vise versa

 

Took me a while to figure out how to get a hole in the part rather than a boss

 

To get my hole in the Solid I had to click Add boss

 

 

 

[Guest]

Nope,

 

Been creating solids of varying complexity.....surely have not seen what you describe

 

Just built a complete tombstone all in Mastercam X9 latest and greatest

 

Definitely an issue on your end...

 

Do you have a file to share?

[Robert Barton]

I don't know how to report this, so I posted it here

[Robert Barton]

The latest service pack came out only 2 weeks ago.

 

I don't know how I would share a file

[Robert Barton]

Odd, I actually had the same problem in X7

 

I had imported an STP file and that is when my problem occurred.

[JayM]

Upload your file so we can take a look.  It is likely a parameter or setting that is causing your issue.  That basic solid function is very proven.

[Roger]

Works fine here.

[guitar]

Where I work we could surely use alot more new holes to put our bosses in.

[JayM]

Where I work we could surely use alot more new holes to put our bosses in.

Ha!!!

[Robert Barton]

I just cannot figure out how to Upload a file

I just cannot figure out how to copy and paste a picture

 

I need help

[jlw™]

I need help

We can tell!

[ostie01]

There's a button on the bottom right MORE REPLY OPTIONS, push this button and you will see the option to include a file.

 

Jeff

[Robert Barton]

Level 2000

 

 

In the Solid manager:

 

Extrude Boss THIS ONE

X.mcx-9

[Müřlıń®]

Yes it does indeed look like your solid is a little buggy.

 

I even removed history and it does exactly what you are saying.....

 

I wouldn't worry about it....just go with it....seems like I ran across that once a while back.

 

I even exported the solid out as a step and tried another extrude cut....

 

It is definitely the way you created the solid that bugged it out....

 

But you are absolutely correct...it is a bug somewhere....

 

Thanks for sharing this because once it is bugged there is no fixing it...

 

 

maybe the only way to fix it is to export it out as a generic iges then stitch the generic surfaces back into a solid...

 

I didn't try exporting as a parasolid though maybe that will strip all the funked up solid tabbs off it...

[Robert Barton]

That solid was originally from Catia, then saved as a STP file.  The original Catia file had no holes in it, only points.

 

The Catia model is why there is no history for it in Mastercam, except for my 2 holes that I added at the Catia points. (.098)

 

I don't think this is a Mastercam issue because the problem happened first in X7, so I thought ok, I'll just use X9 and it has the same issues.  (I normally use X9)

 

Just a simple part, the reason for all this is they moved the location of those 2 holes.

 

Thanks

[Guest]

Using the check solid feature, this is what I found

 

When it was either designed, the method used or when it was translated out, something happened to the model.

 

The model is inside out

 

[Chris Butt from CNC Software]

"The model is inside out" Haven't seen this one before.

 

Robert,

 

As JParis found the solid face directions are pointing inward causing the solid to be "inside out". A way you can fix this is to convert the solid to surfaces and then convert the surfaces back into a solid.

[MIL-TFP-41]

"The model is inside out" Haven't seen this one before.

 

Robert,

 

As JParis found the solid face directions are pointing inward causing the solid to be "inside out". A way you can fix this is to convert the solid to surfaces and then convert the surfaces back into a solid.

 

I saw this many years ago....CadKey had a feature to fix this. CadKey...yes many years....

[Robert Barton]

Inside out .... ok ... Lol ... Odd, I have never seen this before.

 

I will try to repair it then.

 

It then is NOT a problem with Mastercam.

 

Thank you very much.

[AMCNitro]

I saw this many years ago....CadKey had a feature to fix this. CadKey...yes many years....

 

I thought I was the only person to ever used CadKey! I use to love that software!  To me it was better than AutoCad!  We used AutoCad in high school(drafting class) but where my dad used to work they gave him a copy of CadKey and thats what I used when we opened our shop.  Back then we were on MC V4.

[JoshC]

Where I work we could surely use alot more new holes to put our bosses in.

hahaha this is probably the best response I have seen in a long time

[Pete Rimkus from CNC Software Inc.]

I've been doing this a long time and have never seen this, but it's really there!

I was able to get just that Solid to open in a Parasolid tool we have here and I was able to turn it back right-side out.

The corrected solid is attached in the form of a Parasolid .X_T file.

X.zip

Edited January 22, 2016 by Pete Rimkus from CNC Software Inc.

[Nils N]

I'm not real good at solids either but i sure learned a few things in this post. I followed it  thur and checked the operations as described and gained a bit more solids knowledge. Thanks

[PAnderson]

Catia translators are a weird bugger. I have seen this before from a step file I got. I found out when I went to put a tool path to some surfaces and the tool path ended up inside the solid. I thought the op had failed initially.

 

As for CadKey, I loved that software. Used that and Fastsurf to design molds. Very powerful software. Still have a seat of Cadkey at home, full solids and surfaces.

[Müřlıń®]

Catia translators are a weird bugger. I have seen this before from a step file I got. I found out when I went to put a tool path to some surfaces and the tool path ended up inside the solid. I thought the op had failed initially.

 

As for CadKey, I loved that software. Used that and Fastsurf to design molds. Very powerful software. Still have a seat of Cadkey at home, full solids and surfaces.

ya I remember now it was a Catia file I had problems with.

 

I made a mold from a model once and the customer wanted to do some changes to the model and it was doing weird stuff like this.

 

The model would not do a mold split from the mold block...I had to convert to surfaces in Proe and solidify those surfs to make the mold...

 

Even tried messing with in Mastercam and couldn't get anything to work..

 

Couldn't even make a cut on the original model....never figured out what it was....but Ill bet it was inside out like this one was...