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I haven't looked your machine or application, so I really don't know for sure. But I have seen and done some very out-of-the-box things before.

My favorite was doing Turning work, with a 3-Axis Mill. My buddy was making Titanium projectiles for the University of Washington. But the problem was his Lathe didn't have a tool changer that would hold tight tolerances. (Tool room Lathe, with a manual post-type tool changer.) These parts had a bunch of turned features, with .001 run out requirements all over the place.

OP1, was mounting the round blank of Stock, in an ER-32 tool holder, and loading that holder into the mill spindle.

Mike had hand coded a Lathe program, that ran on his mill. He setup a bunch of lathe tools on a riser, with simple strap clamps. Then he used a separate work offset for each tool tip. It was basically just G00 and G1 moves.

It was one of the most ingenious things I've ever seen. I never forgot it, or the lesson it taught me.

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30 minutes ago, Colin Gilchrist said:

I haven't looked your machine or application, so I really don't know for sure. But I have seen and done some very out-of-the-box things before.

My favorite was doing Turning work, with a 3-Axis Mill. My buddy was making Titanium projectiles for the University of Washington. But the problem was his Lathe didn't have a tool changer that would hold tight tolerances. (Tool room Lathe, with a manual post-type tool changer.) These parts had a bunch of turned features, with .001 run out requirements all over the place.

OP1, was mounting the round blank of Stock, in an ER-32 tool holder, and loading that holder into the mill spindle.

Mike had hand coded a Lathe program, that ran on his mill. He setup a bunch of lathe tools on a riser, with simple strap clamps. Then he used a separate work offset for each tool tip. It was basically just G00 and G1 moves.

It was one of the most ingenious things I've ever seen. I never forgot it, or the lesson it taught me.

I have never turned anything using a mill like what you described but there are a bunch of videos on youtube showing people doing this very same thing and it is interesting to watch. I think that is a very cool solution. I don't think you could use CSS, just standard rpm and i also wonder if it might cause premature spindle wear but its still really cool idea and is interesting to watch some of the parts people have done that way.

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24 minutes ago, Incogneeto said:

yep, But my question is ...Isn't Y incorporated in all X axis movement?? I can't just put Y at Zero and run a strictly X program Can I ??

Really comes down to how you program the process as to what Y axis will do. Yes put Y at Zero and cut I have done it for years. I used to do this on Horizontal mills where I would mount the part on the center of the table and spin the table using a Milling cutter and the tool was always on Y0. Have to watch the depth of cut with it being on Y0 because the amount of center cutting will determine how deep you can cut. Best way it to offset Y so the edge of the tool is cutting. Button tools or high feed cutters handle this type of cut the best. Everything you want to do can easily be done in Mastercam using The Generic post or MPLMASTER. 5th Axis is helping a customer right now configure MPLMASTER to cut on their Y axis machine. Some simple M code changes and they pretty much have a dialed in post.

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30 minutes ago, Incogneeto said:

yep, But my question is ...Isn't Y incorporated in all X axis movement?? I can't just put Y at Zero and run a strictly X program Can I ??

I think that it depends on what you want to do with it.  If you're trying to machine/mill a profile you'll have to use the C or Y axis. If you're just milling a hex, you can index to location and machine the flat without moving the Y axis.  Do you have an example of what it will be making? 

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48 minutes ago, JoshC said:

I have never turned anything using a mill like what you described but there are a bunch of videos on youtube showing people doing this very same thing and it is interesting to watch. I think that is a very cool solution. I don't think you could use CSS, just standard rpm and i also wonder if it might cause premature spindle wear but its still really cool idea and is interesting to watch some of the parts people have done that way.

Correct, no CSS.  One could theoretically do that in the post.  My lathe has an automatic part changer:

 

IIRC I manually added RPM changes to the OD passes.

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We did a project a few years ago where we took a 2 hour turning operation and milled it like your describing in 1 minute. Took 2 corners of an insert to machine the Inconel part. Milling with a 5 flute endmill could machine about 10 parts before it needed to be changed. Shop rate was $214/hr and the tool was $75. You do the math and see which was better. 

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One of the people I use to work with came up with this, for drilling holes at an angle in little plastic parts.  There where detent balls at each position, he cut out the "stars" on the waterjet.  He had to do 1000's of these, they just screwed onto the arbor, and since he did three parts at a time, he looped the program, so he could load while it was running.  It was done on a CNC Dynapath knee mill.

 

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8 hours ago, Colin Gilchrist said:

I haven't looked your machine or application, so I really don't know for sure. But I have seen and done some very out-of-the-box things before.

My favorite was doing Turning work, with a 3-Axis Mill. My buddy was making Titanium projectiles for the University of Washington. But the problem was his Lathe didn't have a tool changer that would hold tight tolerances. (Tool room Lathe, with a manual post-type tool changer.) These parts had a bunch of turned features, with .001 run out requirements all over the place.

OP1, was mounting the round blank of Stock, in an ER-32 tool holder, and loading that holder into the mill spindle.

Mike had hand coded a Lathe program, that ran on his mill. He setup a bunch of lathe tools on a riser, with simple strap clamps. Then he used a separate work offset for each tool tip. It was basically just G00 and G1 moves.

It was one of the most ingenious things I've ever seen. I never forgot it, or the lesson it taught me.

I turned a disc mill arbor down with a tool holder mounted on the side of a tombstone in a 50 taper horizontal..  

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On 7/25/2018 at 11:48 AM, Incogneeto said:

We have a Tsugami M08SY. 4 axis Lathe and No real way to Program for it. (Training) My Boss says "well then just use it as a 3 axis for now"

But with this design is that possible??

We just had our M08SY-II installed. We start training Tuesday. Did you get the Tsugami floor mat?

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