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I cannot get the tools set to machine the part on the sub spindle.  I am using three dual station clamping units mounted in station 1, 6 and 12.  the back tools or tools facing the sub are RH.  I have them defined as T0131.02, T0636.02, AND T1242.02.  I cannot get them to go to the sub spindle zero position.   I have tried to use macro numbers. I have my part programmed in g code.  I have 13 stations and unlimited offsets but for some reason it will not read the tools for the sub spindle.  It reads fine for the main when I use T0101.01, T0606.01, and T1212.01

I have been programming using G53.5  Do I try to use a G54-G57 workshift for the sub?

 

thanks for your help

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Do these variables need to be populated in the program?
What are the current values?

(#525= FACE OF PART "Z" ZERO NUMBER,FROM POSITION SCREEN)
(#550= PICKOFF POINT ON PART,FROM POSITION SCREEN)
(#575= FINISH LENGTH ON BACK SPINDLE "Z" FACE OF PART)

Your post treats the Sub Spindle coordinates as variable #575

I believe once you figure out these values, you enter them without the parenthesis and the program is ready to go every time the job is run.

#525 = G53.5 value
#550 = pickoff value
#575 = Z0.0 of sub spindle face of finished part

Hoping for others to chime in, as I am just guessing.

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Thank you so much for you help.  I really appreciate it.  My work day is from 7am to 4pm.  I left, picked up my kids from school and went home.  The boss(my wife) got home at 630 and I jump back in the mini van and came back to work...Yep, thats where I am now.  Gotta get this done or they will have a fit soon 🙄  I was working on this issue and a verification email came through that my question was replied too.  I will go over it now...

That said, I have the transfer down but I cannot get the tools for the sub to go to position.  I will attach the program maybe you or someone else could be so kind to help me get this into my thick skull.

1098.EIA

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6 minutes ago, Orvie said:

Do these variables need to be populated in the program?
What are the current values?

(#525= FACE OF PART "Z" ZERO NUMBER,FROM POSITION SCREEN)
(#550= PICKOFF POINT ON PART,FROM POSITION SCREEN)
(#575= FINISH LENGTH ON BACK SPINDLE "Z" FACE OF PART)

Your post treats the Sub Spindle coordinates as variable #575

I believe once you figure out these values, you enter them without the parenthesis and the program is ready to go every time the job is run.

#525 = G53.5 value
#550 = pickoff value
#575 = Z0.0 of sub spindle face of finished part

Hoping for others to chime in, as I am just guessing.

Hello Sir,  Yeah I put the numbers in the macros and the POCO works fine but the tool used to machine the sub are about 15 to 20 inches off.  I don't understand what the heck I am doing wrong.  I was here wednesday at 3am and thursday at 3am and still couldn't get this finished. 

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Yes you are correct it is 575 that should set the face and I did play with the numbers as you said but I didn't get a different move at least I didn't notice anything.  I'll go out there again and try it again maybe I missed something,

 

Thank you Orvie

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Does anyone know is the R2 a gear or spindle reference?  Maybe I am putting the T0240.## extentions in wrong.  The mazak tooling page says the sub spindle should be defined B and D I wonder if I should just insert a g54 workshift and see if that does anything.

 

M01
(PICKOFF SPINDLE - RETRACT)
G28 B0. (SUB RETURN HOME)
G28 W0.
M01
(TOOL - 30 OFFSET - 30)
(C4-PCLNR-27050-12HP RWM SUB INSERT - NONE)
(FACE BACKSIDE OF PART IN SUB SPINDLE)
G53.5
G50 Z[#575]
N30 T0240.01
G18 G99
M902
G97 S1022 M303 R2
G0 Z.0003 M8
X1.0469
G50 S3600 R2
G96 S280 R2
G1 X.3575 F.008
G0 Z-.0997
G96 S200 R2
G53.5
X.8693 Y0. Z24.3453
Z24.37
G1 Z24.47 F.01
X.8206
X.71
X.8514 Z24.3993
M9
G28 U0. V0.
G28 W0.
M01
(TOOL - 4 OFFSET - 12)
(.007 FOR SUB INSERT - NONE)
(ROUGH  .700 Ø)
G53.5
N4 T0445.01
G18 G99
M902
G97 S896 M303 R2
G0 Z24.375 M8
X.8527
G50 S3600 R2
G96 S200 R2

G1 Z24.425 F.01
Z24.4929
X.8927 Z24.5129
X.9634 Z24.4775
G0 Z24.3959
X.8127
G1 Z24.4459

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I believe R2 is just referencing sub spindle.


(TOOL - 52 OFFSET - 52)
(.007 FOR SUB INSERT - NONE)
(ROUGH  .700 Ø)
G53.5
G50 Z[#575]
N52 T5252.01
G18 G99
M902
G97 S3600 M303 R2
G0 Z-.06 M8
X.0307
G50 S3600 R2
G96 S200 R2
G1 Z-.01 F.01
Z.0579
X.0707 Z.0779
X.1414 Z.0425
G0 Z-.06

Can you look on the variables page and tell me the value for #525 & #575?

 

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3 minutes ago, jlw™ said:

Are you using offsets or the Mazatrol setup page?

The program is G code and I am not using any workshifts but for the machine zero(g53.5)  I thought that I could set the tools on the Mazak side and run it with the G code program but the sub spindle tools just are not going to position.  I'm gonna run out to the floor and try a few things you guys told me about.

 

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Okay thanks, that sounds interesting.  So do you think that M303 is not the correct sub spindle reference?  I'm so dog tired right now I gotta go home and get some sleep.  I plan to get here at 5am and I will try it right away and let you guys know what happens...

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Good morning fellas,  I got here this morning around 330 am so I tried the changes you suggested.  Thank you for you time and help.  Unfortunately, the 575 macro shift does not work.  I saw no change no matter what numbers I put in.  The M303 code must be the spindle rotation.  When I changed it to M302 the spindle would not turn on.

Wow!  I don't know what to do.  I wonder if I should ask the principle engineer here to see if he can get a Mazak applications guy in here?  I'd hate to do that cause I'd here it then but what else is there to do?  Did the operator set the tools incorrectly, I don't think so I touched off a few tools again and got the same numbers.  The A,B,C,D mazatrol tool ID's look right.  I don't know if I need to call them up for sure in the g code program but I tried with or without.

In any case thanks and heres to safe and happy week for you.

...lol, mine sure is suckin and gonna suck much worse very soon😉😪

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