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  1. yeah depending on the #used, fanuc has Local, Common and system variables. Heidy variable example: Q temporary variable. Q1=3.84 QL local variable. Temporary variable true on in program it was issued. QL= 3.82 QR permanent variable, until overwritten. QR = 3.82 QS string parameter QS = "HELLO" then there is architecture to read string parameters as data, and functions to read and write system data.
  2. Turbosoft has this capability but i haven't got into the weeds on it......yet. Both Siemens and Heidy controls are able take this data and tweak the kinematic file to align to the part just because you can doesn't mean you should. More like, with a properly calculated kine file, uploaded to the control...
  3. I was sorta vague with what I was saying, now I'm not 100% on what you're saying Here it is more exactly: https://youtu.be/rYJQTo0Lowo?t=1226 starting at 20:26 works great. With proper program you can do full 5 axis after alignment.
  4. I'll say it is pretty badass to be able to slap a first op part back in the vise, probe it back into perfect alignment with respect to all degrees of freedom, fully defined in the offsets. Then run the same full 5-axis program on it to near perfection. Your average smartphone is probably more powerful, but the industry has come long way in ease of use.
  5. First I've seen of the cimco probing in MC. Nice! https://www.mastercam.dk/probing/product/ I see it is showing native heidenhein cycles on the website. Might have to try that out! Out hypermill posts are mostly configured for posting to heidenhein. These two play VERY nice together.
  6. I believe any Traori or cycle 800 will run on a 5 axis of any configuration. Head-Head table-table or Table head doesn't matter as the specific machines Kinematic file will do the translation. This is possible with a few top line controls as i understand it.
  7. DId the machine come with a Renishaw manual outlining the MACROs loaded into the control? (rise/run) INV TAN is easy enough @YoDoug®
  8. I've got a lot to learn on the FANUC probing side. We had a question come in recently where our fanuc guru was like ..um.. lets get BLUM involved with that one. Calling G65 macros out of your head using renishaw's easy-set macros is my point of reference. That really blows compared to native Heidy spindle probe cycles that don't change base on who installs the tool laser/ spindle probe system (BLUM / HEXAGON M&H/ Reni) . But is sounds like you've got a really nice way to drop in some code. Wish i knew how to do that. Manual probing (not automated cycles) on Heidy are sweet. call probe into spindle jog to location navigate to softkey of appropriate type of probing select x/y/z direction desired GO! so really just a few clicks to probe points all around and sending probed location to an fixture offset is just one click after that. ********************************************************************************************** SO Cincinnati's acramatic 2100 was really Siemens underneath, right? ********************* Kinda interested who copied who between Siemens and Heidenhain, since functionality is so similar. I guess it doesn't really matter just like CAM companies playing checkbox warfare. Working for an outfit that sells high end machine tools with Fanuc , Heidenhain and Siemens controls the clear winner in motion control and feed rate planing is Heidenhain. Siemens drives have been criticized for being comparatively sensitive differences in setup weight. So there's that. One thing I miss with the Fanuc control from an operator's perspective is the total lack of latency between user input and motion. PC based controls seem to have latency here and there that gets the operator wondering wtf the machine is doing. Triggering TCPM in a program with Heidy results in a little pause whereas Fanuc is 100% go go go. I was really hesitant in getting involved with yet another CNC control a few years ago, but know i wanna convert all the machines I've worked on. So many things streamlined. Probably not fair comparing a 20 year old Haas 3 axis to a $1million dollar 5 axis with all the bells and whistles. But F*ckit.
  9. I love pissing contests because their educational. Please continue. We need to have a macro competition lol. Heidenhain automatically loses cuz it's limited even though it does have some cool features. I'm interested in how to do the right angle head stuff on the latest fanuc and Siemens control. On heidenhein you call a external kinematic file for the right angle head from the tool table basically.
  10. This thread is getting mentioned elsewhere in the inter-webs. I'll say it's a little unfortunate for a couple guys to be commiserating on problems experienced with particular brand in a specific scenario and unintentionally deriding the entire lineup of Mikron mills. It's unfortunate, imo, due to a low volume builder without tons of guys signing their praises, these rare sub-optimal experiences are skewing the whole story. Manufacturer sometimes attempt to make a variety of products for different market segments and price points. Comparing an entry level mill to a high optioned one is apples to oranges. 2cents FWIW.
  11. Nothing personal it's a FANUC thing Heidenhain has never had a inch/metric issue. ever
  12. I stand corrected Awesome support from the AE side, configuring that probing and whatnot. 'Never' shutting off the machine and setting up a 4am automatic warmup cycle would be obvious idea, i'm sure you've thought about or tried. There are lots of manufactures out there that don't really do an exhaustive CPk analysis in regards to temperature. Some do a real good job algorithm based, without temp sensors. Sounds like you need to go back to the factory for a solution. Press your dealer to go up the food chain. or buy an okuma Trollololol PS: your experience level running production on a this high end machine is on a whole other level beyond my experience, so not much help from me. Hard to imagine the Mori is even using the scale data whatsoever, being that far off. I bet you could get with the AE and track this scale data along with what you are already recording. It might show something once graphed? Rhetorically, if there is 3 feet of cast iron between the scale the cutter, what Delta-T would you need to get .002 growth?
  13. I agree. You shouldn't have to. Warmup protocols with probing an artifact would be my advice. I have a 20 year old Okuma mill turn that has scales on the X and temp probes in the castings plus an algorithm that apparently works. Turning some A286 part for the Boeing crew capsule from a 70 degree morning to an afternoon in the 90s, shop tamp, I only made .0005" shift for insert wear towards that end of the day. It was just for giggles, with a +/-.001" tolerance. Tool holders are the most wonky design known to man and it still held pretty much perfectly. Okuma has the thermal stuff figured out and I would never get anything else. I bet that lower turret doesn't have a scale, which means you might get better, results with the head, assuming they didn't cheap out there too.

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