thanks for the help I'm going to try to 20 degree Harvey seems like it will make a nice crisp line , I only need to go .05 to .08 mm deep so shouldn't be a issue . I have some 1/32 balls in stock may try a couple out with those as well.  

what is your go to engraving tool for small numbers and letters smaller than 2mm on hardened steel ? 

Hello I am new to this forum and fairly new to mastercam been working with the software for a couple months now, started off with featue cam and realized mastercam has more options when it comes to decorative things. my question is what tool paths are best for engraving wood to make the lettring or figures really pop in the wood grain I have used a surface contour on some basic 2d line geometry, would a engraving process be the at to go with changing depths and features to make images look more 3d ?