Hurco VMXS 24 Good,Bad?

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Hello

We are days away from pulling the trigger on this unit.

Does anyone have one?

 

 

Thanks

Tony

[travis meyer]

i got one what do you want to know?

 

[ 02-28-2006, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: Mill Crasher ]

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Mill

Can it be run at 15,000 the max rpm?

Do you have there adaptive surface finish software in the controller?

If so can you basically program rapid and the software will keep the machine from destroying itself while giving you the best finish?

Do you cut hard S-7 and carbon in it?

 

Did you buy there Dust collection system?

or your own?

If your own who,what where?!

 

Thanks

Tony

[Carl Hessig]

We got a new VMX30 about 4 months ago, it has the 10,000 rpm spindle. The spindle is cooled by the coolant system around the spindle so if cutting without flush the spindle gets a little warm. This spindle is also belt driven and gets kinda loud at full speed. I would take a trip to Indy if they have one on their floor with a 15,000 spindle in it.

Most hard milling and graphite we try to keep in our makino SNC64. The machine movements are much improved over our other hurcos.

The best thing about a hurco is their conversational programing. We don't have to program everything in mastercam because everyone in the shop can program holes, 2D, and even simple 3D. Then if we have to run gcode it will do that too.

If you are just going to cut hard steel and graphite you might be disappointed. But if you need an all around mill there great for the price.

 

Carl

 

[ 02-28-2006, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: Carl Hessig from Nypro Kentucky ]

[travis meyer]

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Can it be run at 15,000 the max rpm?

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yes all day long. right now its been running about 36 hours at 12000 rpms with out a problem. most of our molds are s-7, h13 and p20 ive cut some plastic and graphite once(big mess)

 

small steps high feed rate will give a nice finish . we dont have a dust colector on it, the coolent ring around the spindle is nice but drips a lot after a run you'll get ust to that

i work at a.t.p. in monticello ia what part of ill. are you from.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Beware of using Wear Compensation! A friend of mine is ready to send his Hurco back because he hates the thing so bad.

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

James

The wear comp.issue is a Hurco software bug.

I am using VS. 2.32.11c/2.01.09i

The build before also had the controller randomlly ignoring the offsets you plugged in.

They have newer builds

but This one works and I

am not going through that again!

(I can send it to you for your friend)

 

The Hurco is $70,000 the makino $$$

As the row of Tiwanese VMC's grow.

Are AGIE holepopper just arrived last week...

Made in China.

 

Mill,I am about 50 miles West of Chicago

 

Thanks Everyone

 

Tony

[travis meyer]

i should tell you of the problems we've had in the last 1 1/2 years

1 hard drive

1 spindle belt

every now and then errors will just jump out of the blue that know one can explane.

 

when i left last night it sounded like a barring was going to exsplode in the spindle but this morning it sounds like it did when it was new

the conversasonal side of the programing is nice 4 hole dilling and 2d programing and simple stuff like that

when running mastercam on 3d you have to be carefull with the filter tolerants it will start driving in circles all over the place

 

if you have any ?s fill free to ask

 

trav

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Mill

I know all about the "filter"

I always Run Draw at the controller to catch them.

.0002 in XZ,YZ is usually asking for trouble.

 

The Belt gets coolant on it then Hardens to goo and then it starts making all that noise

one day and then not the next.

I had service out one day to say

"If this machine made all this noise in the showroom I never would have bought it"

He cleaned the belt and turned it on

No more noise.

 

Also I had them run air out of the head for cutting hardened steel.It is intergraded into the controller so when you post "Air" or Mist

in MC it kicks out a M7 and the air turns on.

You can have it hooked up to the coolant also to blow out the coolant at the end of a run

 

(No more dripping) I just stick the air hose into one of the outlets and Blow that stops it from dripping for indicating.

 

 

Tony

[travis meyer]

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Also I had them run air out of the head for cutting hardened steel.It is intergraded into the controller so when you post "Air" or Mist

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is that an option from hurco

[Wet-Tech]

I cut hardened s-7 and h-13 as well as graphite all the time on a creative evalution. For the the money you can't beat them(just over 100k compared to Makino). 30,000 rpm and incredible finishs. Check it out at creat.com

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Mill

Yes,Call your Hurco service man

it is a legit hurco service call.

"Sort of a Dealer installed option"

Saturday & Cash cuts the bill in half

We can't do that here though.

 

Tony

 

Also at the controller when you hit "Secondary" the air will now come on.

[travis meyer]

awsome!!! thanks

 

trav

[travis meyer]

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when i left last night it sounded like a barring was going to exsplode

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it happend last night at 5:00. now its locked up and we are waiting for a repair man.

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Great...

Supports my Hurco RPM theory

 

 

Wet-tech

I have been checking out your lead.

 

Thanks

Tony

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Thanks for the offer. My friend has Hurco out there dealing with it as well as a "...myriad..." of other issues.

[chris m]

Carl I don't know how the plumbing on the Hurco is but you could probably plumb a T in where the coolant runs out of the spindle and snake a line back into the tank so you can run your coolant through the head and back to the tank for chilling purposes when you wanna machine dry

 

C

[travis meyer]

hey tony

if your still looking for one i might know of one. (just needs a little work).

[tooljockey]

How about a Hurco Ultimax3 control on a hi-speed Makino. That would be the best of both worlds!!

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Wet -Tech

The VP pointed out that the Creative machine

weighs 1/2 of what the hurco and makino do?

 

None the less were going to check them out

there 10 miles away from us.