compare vericut vs ncsimul

[stareal]

Hello

do any of you have experience with both systems 

thanks 

[Watcher]

here we go again...

 

Please, do a search in the forum or Google it again...

 

[stareal]

I have searched on google and forum but I don't see

Can you share me any information ?

[Watcher]

There are a number of useful discussions about it...

 

It's just one of those subjects that always end up nowhere...

 

What machines and part envelopes you expect to cover?

 

Both are excellent products.

 

Search for NCSimul and pick the threads you like...

[Guest]

@stareal

 

The REAL question is "...what do you need?". Answer that question and most likely you'll  answer which direction you should go.

[stareal]

I want to compare based on the following criteria:

Price

Reliability

Help

Ease of use

Can you help me ?

thanks for all

[Guest]

Pricing discussion is not allowed on this forum

 

This is a Mastercam forum

[jlw™]

Not to mention you can't compare simulation to CAM.

 

That's like saying "I'm hungry, do you have any yarn?"

[Watcher]

I want to compare based on the following criteria:

Price

Reliability

Help

Ease of use

Can you help me ?

thanks for all

 

Don´t take it as an offense, but it seems to me you want someone to do your job for you. 

 

All factors you´re attempting to gather above are relative. They depend on the skillset and the size of your budget, your machinery, etc. 

 

If you guys are a 3 axis shop, and are moving to multiaxis or millturn (Most common reason people go after verification software), it´s going to be a pain regardless the software you use. In the beginning at least. You don´t know a lot of stuff and you don´t know what you don´t know. In this phase, first thing is to blame the software, regardless its brand.

 

We have an old programmer here who joined us after 10 years away from programming. He was a NC-Programmer here 10 years ago, worked 6 years here as a shop supervisor, was let go a year ago and returned this year, joinning our team. When he was the shop supervisor, our team (The team he was a member of years before) was a bunch of idiots that could not make good programs. (Operators were treated as babies on his watch because he used to believe that sleep with them was good politics - Better be up on arms against the programmers...    - Long story...)

 

He screams with his monitor on a daily basis and is having a hard time to learn it all. When he worked as a programmer here, he used PencilCAM and AutoCAD to drive HBMs. Now it´s a totally different world and learn to program an Integrex or a Mori NT (Don´t get me started on the WFLs...) it´s painful. We have good laughs watching him to fight with VERICUT   - It´s an excellent product, everybody likes it, but he does not get it yet, so he blames it... 

 

There´s no flawless or piece of cake to learn CAx software. It requires skilled people, continuous training, proper customization and a will to master them. Then you get an old school guy to learn all this, he´s always trying to shape the world to his way, and not the other way around. (By the way this board is a proof that there are tons of old school guys that can grab it in an eyeblink too ).

 

So then people come to these boards and expect a matrix this vs. that. Is not that simple and you´ll have to dig it up a bit more. 

 

No one here will tell you one is better than the other by a long mile... Both are excellent and have excellent support.

[Guest]

and with Daniels excellent reply, I am going to lock it