First of all I want to say thanks to those who support this forum. It's been a great tool for me at work. I have been using Mastercam for about 8 years. "Remember loading it in DOS" I'm located in Lanaster Co. PA. We have quite a few harness shops in this area. If you're interested, email me and I'll give you the name of one who is very good. They have done work for Williamsburg VA. (Budweiser Clydsdale horses)