I am new to the forum but I was kinda shocked reading this post. Some pretty WILD claims such as... "30 day money back guarantee is not as good as a trial version and shows they just want your money" "the number of job openings posted for the various CAM systems has ANY bearing on how good those systems are" And "you get what you pay for" in CAM software. I have wide experience with OneCNC and MasterCAM. Right now we use MasterCAM because we already had it, but we are not paying for any maintenance or future releases. Its just too expensive when you compare it to OneCNC. Honestly, if you completely take price out of the equation, it seems that MasterCAM allows for a bit more control, whereas OneCNC is more graphical and does a lot for you. If you want to go in and adjust toolpaths and make small edits, you can do that in OneCNC but its not as easy as doing it in MCAM. Then again we are using V9. I am not sure about X. Its funny because for all the talk about "make sure they give you a free 90 day license". I was not able to get that from MCAM. They told me I could try out a demo CD but I cant post with it. OneCNC wouldnt give me a free trial version either but did let me do 2 demos where they took my part files and did the CAM (and I DID try to stump them with tough CAM problems we faced - they did pretty well with it). Anyone who dismisses XR based on the cost, or how many pirate copies are on eBay, or how many jobs show up on monster.com is, sorry to say, a fool. Thats like refusing a $50k a year pay raise because you assume there MUST be something you're missing in the deal. And before I get flamed - why am I here? Well, we havent bought OneCNC XR yet. I want to try out X before I make a final decision. Right now I am leaning towards XR because I havent seen anything it cant do that MCAM can do, and I have not heard anything to explain why MCAM is worth the extra money. THen again, I havent tried X and when I do, maybe I will really like it.