cool thanks...

nice, very nice...

All,

At first I thought the UMC-750 was meant for AL t6061 only...but it was pretty damn good at cutting harder material... all sst , Titanium, only must use " Dynamic" motion with a bout 3-5 percent step over, full LOC... cut titanium with full 5 morph between 2 surfaces, using TCPC with no problem... just be cautious when using full 5 with TCPC.. you might have to create a entry geometry ... to fool the machine TCPC...

well, overall... UMC-750 is great for that kind of price.. couldn't ask for more...

still a lot to learn... the other day,, ran the Probe zero check.. everything was good... manually check the y-offset was off .0015,,, so we adjusted the 1307 parameter and no more problem... same with the z-offset.. have to manually check right after probe...and adjust 1308 parameter..

Nguyen..

JeremyV

 

I don't mean to hijack your thread but we just purchased a new Haas UMC-750 5-axis machine. A guy from Haas came out and setup up the machine. He used the probe to find the "machine rotary zero point" otherwise known as the center of rotation and then showed me how to use the tool probe. I set up a job and used the probe to set all my tools. All the tools seem to be cutting about -.005 too low in Z so my part thickness is coming out undersize. I'm trying to determine if the probe is setting the tool to low or the machine center of rotation is wrong. Any Suggestions? I would assume the tool probe would not be worn if it was brand new.

Justin,

Your " what so called master gauge from HAAS" isn't master anymore.... " re-calibrated the gage, make sure that the number came from Haas 's factory is the same as the number on the gage, at this point I don't think that it is......if it both number are not the same, then set your gage number .005 higher.... the re-calibrated...

agreed with everyone else... need to take the disk out, grind, re-adjusted, indicate within .0005 or better, for it to work... happended numerous time with me.... there is no way out....

Justin,

You 're right, if you have the DWO and TCPC switch to "0"in the post, then you have issue with the Z depth... i'll send it in to QC...

Justin,

Yeah, don't worry we 'll keep in touch , since I haven't done any "full 5" yet, just 3+2 until I'm confident with it..

I got what you were saying about taking DWO and TCPC off....to me it is to our "programmers" advantage to use it.... it make programming in mastercam so much easier... I understand that you machine from a solid block and there is no need for DWO and TCPC... I 've tried "2nd Op" with probe, DWO, and it worked flawless, I have use with "1st Op" with probe, rotated in 3+2 mode and it worked flaw less... the point here is I don't have to move the part in mastercam, just TOP/TOP and forget about moving the part else where to match the center rotation of C and B axis... reason is that when I used my VF3-TR210, everytime new set up "repeat job" the center point is off,,, so I did it this way, for every top/top I used separated work offset which base on top of part, for every angle I used a macro to calculated from known centerpoint and added in different work offset... this is the only way for me not to mess with moving the part ever again.... UMC 750 has that feature, I'm so glad that it did....

and again, yes Haas 's plate is definitely a minus ... till this day I can't think of the reason why they have to make their plate rectangle instead of a round smaller plate... but don't worry I'm gonna take it off and make a round plate, if you have the machine 's skeleton you 'll see there are only 6x screws to hold it together with table...

regarding your original problem, it did not happened to me,,, the post work flawlessly

probably something is not right with your MMD/CMD or PSB files...

Nguyen.... keep intouch, I 'll keep you update on everything about UMC-750...

Yeah, I had the same problem with the B-axis posted out 4x place,,, thanks i'll try to change that in the post....

one question, how come you didn't out put " G254" which is DWO, on your post?, I used mine with no problem, everything is TOP/TOP in WCS..., you do not have to use different plane.... DWO and TCPC knows exactly where you at....and did you check the WIR? self center that will out put to parameter # 106 for X, #107 for Y, both Xand Y Center of B axis, and #108 is for Z which is center of C axis...., then put those in #1306, #1307, #1308, manually,...

The post work great...DWO and TCPC worked great, tested a couple part with no problems...

The only problem is X/Y/Z axis, everything is over hang so much, that I'm afraid to put everything at 100% rapid... Haas gotta redesigned there machine structure.... the rotary seem to be ok... plus the original plate is one of the most irritated ....

We 're going to take the sub plate Haas' creation of " watchout, you 're going to need a lot of clearance, sub plate ever" and create a disk, similar with TR210...

Check this out,

" Be very careful"

This is for a Haas 's Probe, so your machine could have different code...

This is an example ONLY...

How was your probe setup ?you have to calibrate your probe with Productivity plus calibration cycle first before you do anything

Happy holiday to all in the forum, without all of you replying, is like going to school without books, eventually will graduate but take much longer,,,

So with that been said,, Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all in this forum... and great appreciation to everyone take time to reply back from simple to very head-storming thread......it might sound like a piece of cake to you but and head-storm-frustration to other....

Nguyen

Kamet Manufacturing

Renishaw defaults the inspection plus macros to 2*** in their productivity+ posts. Open the Prod+ post and there is a section where it sets the macro numbers or change the name of the 9*** macros in the machine control to match. They should all be just the first digit to change, IE, 2109 to 9109

You can request "Productivity plus post configuration" from your reseller, that will enable you to change all the sub program 's number, I changed all mine to start at #8000 only to avoid confliction with others, same as all variable values. There is a configuration inside "Renishaw pst config" that will enable you to out put all sub with main program.. you must have that turn off...

ohh one more thing, after changes made, make sure that you run the "Proble Calibration" using all new sub and variables value.. it will store the differential error of probe needle...

good stuff, and yeah @ 34sec his hand when probing else where.. haha

Mastermind, What kind of tooling/vise setup are you going to be using with the umc-750? what kind of work do you guys do?

We will be using our own plate on top of it original plate, with re-enforce pin pattern, so that we can use almost every fixture that we have in our shop, everything is bolt down with 2x .500 pins and 4x 1/2-13 screws,,, I haven't purchase any work holding yet, and not planning on to.... saw a couple of work-holding but didn't like the method of it.. so everything is custom made in house...

Couldn't agree more. Also, I don't believe Mastercam will simulate TCPC or DWO in its machine simulation. I ran my Makino in 5-axis for about 10 minutes before I was on the phone ordering machine simulation from Vericut. It only took that long for me to realize I could buy it right then for $xx,xxx or I could buy it in 6-8 weeks for $xx,xxx plus the cost of a new Makino spindle and repairs to my Tsudakoma rotary table, which would be about triple the cost of the Vericut... I was pleasantly surprised at how much time it has saved me in addition to preventing crashes. It has been one of the best investments I have made for increasing my productivity in the shop and it was worth every penny. Buy it now or buy it later, especially if you will be running TCPC and DWO.

Thanks Bob, I did a webinar with vericut, and we 're considering it only for the 5-axis module...we do not use any other G-code verification in house other than Mastercam,... to me I think that 's enough, so far I have a lot of luck with it, and the simulation is great...

Hi Bob,

 

Yes, the UMC-750 has those control options. I believe they are standard for this machine, but I could be wrong. The TCPC is only valid for 5 Axis machining, and the DWO is only valid for 3+2. That's what we've built into the OEM Haas UMC-750 Post Processor. It is also setup for High Speed codes and compatible with the Productivity+ Probing add-on. Each OEM post comes with a PDF 'Applications Guide' that explains how to use the post with Mastercam, and set all the switches properly. We've tried to make sure every feature on the machine is supported "out-of-the-box", and it also comes with a full model for Machine Simulation. The post is still technically in a Beta state, as we are still working through some tests with Haas corporate to get the post certified. Anyone interested in an OEM Post should talk with their Mastercam Reseller for more information.

 

Thanks,

 

Colin

Colin,

TCPC and DWO is standar for UMC 750, I did talked with my reseller regarding OEM UMC 750 post, and yes we 're going to purchase it from CNC...thanks for the head up...

Masterminder did you get the machine yet?? Do you guys use and type of g-code verification with your 5 -axis machines? It might be our 1st 5 axis so Im looking for any tips I can get about what else We need to go with the machine.

Machine is on the way here, we do not have any g-code verification, only use mastercam simulator, mastercam does what it said so there is no need for a NC verification..., and having the post from CNC....we have couple of TR-210 here, used mastercam and it own verification and machine simulation and I have no problem with it....from very simple to very complicated stuff...

Ohh Guys...

Aaron, the new 5-axis "swarf solid" tool path is " awesome ", tried it today, niceee

Yes I did, and he say to wait

Thanks To the both of you guys

help....

Aaron,

just installed Mastercam X7 Mu1

installed Patches for Productivity plus

Sim : Kamet Manufacturing

Productivity Plus still doesn't work, is there something that I need to do? please help..

Back Plot is not right...

Colin,

Thank You and Happy Thanks giving

Crazy Millman,

Thanks... I did ask my reseller for a quote.. at the same time ask the Haas rep to do the same,,,

Colin,

Thanks.. so the "Generic Fanuc 5X MMD" will not work? even with a modification?

Nope, it will be our 3rd, we have some VF3-TR210 and yourself???

Thanks Aaron

Guys,

We 're getting a new Haas UMC 750 soon, like it 's on the way here..

Anyone in here have it? if so any thing I should be aware ??? lolz...

Greatly Appreciated