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Lathe Groovine Finish Path Dwell

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clifftm Newbie

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When we use the lathe grooving finish path corner dwell (added in X4 mu1 I think) our post does not output anything to the G code File.

 

Our dealer tells us our post could be an older one that does not provide for this setting.

 

Maybe someone will be kind enough to answer some questions.

 

Can anyone tell us if an explicit command is placed in the NCI file for the finish path corner dwell as it is for the rough path dwell?

 

If not is it calculated in the post or definitions from x and z moves?

 

Thank you

 

We are using Mastercam X5 mu1

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When we use the lathe grooving finish path corner dwell (added in X4 mu1 I think) our post does not output anything to the G code File.

 

Our dealer tells us our post could be an older one that does not provide for this setting.

 

Maybe someone will be kind enough to answer some questions.

 

Can anyone tell us if an explicit command is placed in the NCI file for the finish path corner dwell as it is for the rough path dwell?

 

If not is it calculated in the post or definitions from x and z moves?

 

Thank you

 

We are using Mastercam X5 mu1

 

Try using the Generic Fanuc 4X MT_Lathe Post. Here is some code output from this stock post. Note: I entered '11' for the back offset number for cutter compensation. The Finish Dwell codes are output to the NCI file, so this is just an issue with your post not picking up the change...

 

%
O0000
(PROGRAM NAME - T)
(DATE=DD-MM-YY - 08-03-12 TIME=HH:MM - 15:04)
(MCX FILE - T)
(NC FILE - C:\USERS\CMG\DOCUMENTS\MY MCAMX5\LATHE\NC\T.NC)
(MATERIAL - STEEL INCH - 1030 - 200 BHN)
G20
(TOOL - 41 OFFSET - 41)
(OD GROOVE CENTER - NARROW  INSERT - GC-4125)
G0 T4141
G18
G97 S703 M03
G0 G54 X-1.0863 Z-.5017
G50 S3600
G96 S200
G99 G1 X-.5665 F.002
G0 X-1.0863
Z-.4333
G1 X-.5665 F.0025
X-.5939 Z-.447
G0 X-1.0863
Z-.5701
G1 X-.5665
X-.5939 Z-.5564
G0 X-1.0863
Z-.365
G1 X-.5665
X-.5939 Z-.3786
G0 X-1.0863
T4111
G97 S200
Z-.2893
X-1.0277
G1 X-.8863 Z-.36 F.002
X-.5565
G4 P.5
G1 Z-.415
G0 X-1.0277
T4141
Z-.6458
G1 X-.8863 Z-.5751
X-.5565
G4 P.5
G1 Z-.52
G0 X-1.0277
G28 U0. V0. W0. M05
T4100
M30
%

 

 

NCI code for reference:

 

 

050

14 43 0 0 0 0 0 0 T

999

62 0 1

1051

MULTI - AXIS MILL / TURN LATHE 2 - 4

1053

Machine Group-1

1011

0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.

1012

2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1013

0 0.01 0. 0 5 0. 0. 0. 103 OD GROOVE CENTER - NARROW

1014

0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0.

1016

1 2 62 1 0. 0. 0. 42 0 0 0 0 0. 41 1 1 1 8

1017

1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1.

950

0 0 0 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1025

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1027

1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0.

1020

0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 5000 STEEL inch - 1030 - 200 BHN

20010

TOP

20011

 

20012

LATHE UPPER LEFT [TOP] 1

20013

 

20014

TOP

20015

 

20016

STEEL inch - 1030 - 200 BHN

20017

MEDIUM CARBON

20018

Toolpath Group-1

20019

 

20001

OD GROOVE CENTER - NARROW

20002

NONE

20100

1 2 1 0 0. 1 41 41 41

20101

0.0025 82 0.002 200 1 100. 100. 1 8 0 82

20102

1 0. 90. 0.125 0. 0.01 0.01 0 0.

20103

GC-4125

20104

110 0. 0.5 0.01 0.188 0 2 0

20105

0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.

20106

0 0 0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0

20107

0.125 0.093 0. 0. 0. 0.1 0.01 0.05 0. 0.

20108

0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0

20109

0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.

20110

NONE

20111

83 6. 0.5 1. 1. 0.75 0.093 0. 0. 0. 45. 0 0 1 0

20112

C:\USERS\PUBLIC\DOCUMENTS\SHARED MCAMX5\LATHE\TOOLS\NONE

20800

0.

20600

3 D47A78E7-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Machine Base

20600

4 D47A78E9-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Z" "Z" Lathe Right Spindle Z Axis (<--+)

20600

5 840561EF-2294-11E1-A2F0-F04DA2626321 "" "" Lathe Chuck

20600

6 D47A78EB-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "C" "C" Lathe Right Spindle C Axis

20600

7 D47A78ED-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Lathe Chuck

20600

8 D47A78EF-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Z" "Z" Lathe Left Spindle Z Axis (-->+)

20600

9 D47A78F1-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "X" "X" Lathe Upper Turret X Axis

20600

10 D47A78F3-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Y" "Y" Lathe Upper Turret Y Axis

20600

11 D47A78F5-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Lathe Upper Turret

20600

12 D47A78F7-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Z" "Z" Lathe Left Spindle Z Axis (-->+)

20600

13 D47A78F9-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "X" "X" Lathe Lower Turret X Axis

20600

14 D47A78FB-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Y" "Y" Lathe Lower Turret Y Axis

20600

15 D47A78FD-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Lathe Lower Turret

20600

16 D47A78FF-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "C" "C" Lathe Left Spindle C Axis

20600

17 D47A7901-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Lathe Chuck

20600

18 D47A7903-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Z" "Z" Lathe Right Spindle Z Axis (<--+)

20600

19 D47A7905-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "X" "X" Lathe Upper Turret X Axis

20600

20 D47A7907-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Y" "Y" Lathe Upper Turret Y Axis

20600

21 D47A7909-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Lathe Upper Turret

20600

22 D47A790B-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Z" "Z" Lathe Right Spindle Z Axis (<--+)

20600

23 D47A790D-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "X" "X" Lathe Lower Turret X Axis

20600

24 D47A790F-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "Y" "Y" Lathe Lower Turret Y Axis

20600

25 D47A7911-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 "" "" Lathe Lower Turret

20600

26 2ED2A535-77B4-11E0-840C-00A0D525D254 "" "" Tailstock

20601

45 D47A7922-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 0 Left/Upper

20601

48 D47A792D-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 0 Left/Lower

20601

51 D47A7938-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 0 Right/Upper

20601

54 D47A7943-FBBA-11DA-991B-001111AFFC59 0 Right/Lower

20700

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1001

0 100 2 41 41 5000 1 -200 -0.0025 0 0.54314441 0. -0.50169464 5. 0. 10. 1 0.

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.50169464 1000. 0

1

0 0.28325347 0. -0.50169464 -0.002 3000

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.50169464 1000. 40000

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.43333212 1000. 40000

1

0 0.28325347 0. -0.43333212 -0.0025 0

1

0 0.29692597 0. -0.44700462 -0.0025 0

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.44700462 1000. 40000

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.57005717 1000. 40000

1

0 0.28325347 0. -0.57005717 -0.0025 0

1

0 0.29692597 0. -0.55638466 -0.0025 0

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.55638466 1000. 40000

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.3649696 1000. 40000

1

0 0.28325347 0. -0.3649696 -0.0025 100

1

0 0.29692597 0. -0.3786421 -0.0025 200

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.3786421 1000. 40000

1011

0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.

1012

2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1013

0 0.01 0. 0 5 0. 0. 0. 102 OD GROOVE CENTER - NARROW

1014

0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0.

1016

1 2 62 1 0. 0. 0. 42 0 0 0 0 0. 41 1 1 1 8

1017

1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1.

950

0 0 0 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1025

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1027

1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0.

1020

0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 5000 STEEL inch - 1030 - 200 BHN

20010

TOP

20011

 

20012

LATHE UPPER LEFT [TOP] 1

20013

 

20014

TOP

20015

 

20016

STEEL inch - 1030 - 200 BHN

20017

MEDIUM CARBON

20018

Toolpath Group-1

20019

 

20800

0.

1000

0 100 2 41 11 5000 1 200 -0.002 0 0.54314441 0. -0.28925892 5. 0. 10. 1 0.

0

0 0.54314441 0. -0.28925892 1000. 0

0

0 0.51385509 0. -0.28925892 1000. 0

1

0 0.44314441 0. -0.3599696 -0.002 52000

1

0 0.27825347 0. -0.3599696 -0.002 1000

4

0.5 200 1

1

0 0.27825347 0. -0.41501338 -0.002 300

0

0 0.51385509 0. -0.41501338 1000. 40000

1011

0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.

1012

2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1013

0 0.01 0. 0 5 0. 0. 0. 102 OD GROOVE CENTER - NARROW

1014

0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 0. 0.

1016

1 2 62 1 0. 0. 0. 41 0 0 0 0 0. 41 1 1 1 8

1017

1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1.

950

0 0 0 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1025

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

1027

1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0.

1020

0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 0. 0. 0. 0. 0 5000 STEEL inch - 1030 - 200 BHN

20010

TOP

20011

 

20012

LATHE UPPER LEFT [TOP] 1

20013

 

20014

TOP

20015

 

20016

STEEL inch - 1030 - 200 BHN

20017

MEDIUM CARBON

20018

Toolpath Group-1

20019

 

20800

0.

1000

0 100 2 41 41 5000 1 200 -0.002 0 0.51385509 0. -0.64576785 5. 0. 10. 1 0.

0

0 0.51385509 0. -0.64576785 1000. 0

1

0 0.44314441 0. -0.57505717 -0.002 52000

1

0 0.27825347 0. -0.57505717 -0.002 1000

4

0.5 200 1

1

0 0.27825347 0. -0.52001338 -0.002 300

0

0 0.51385509 0. -0.52001338 1000. 40000

1003

5. 0. 10.

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I don'tsay tht I know for sure, but I rhink that it has nothing with post but with program window in MC. as you can see for rough param. you have "Dwell Time" and for finish parm. you have "Corner Dwell". I think that they didnt tuned those things corectly in MC. probably if your groove is a little bit wired shape " Corner Dwell" will not work corectly.

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clifftm Newbie

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I am not saying I know for sure either but I think I agree it is a mastercam problem.

I ran some test grooves for comparison.

One aspect the the groove shape caused the finish path corner dwell to fail every time no matter what post I used.

I know what to expect now so I am going to call it mystery solved.

 

Thanks to all.

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