Cascade, I'm sorry...I can't help you with that. I'm not familiar with that. It might sound silly, But in the past we had an issue with program format.. T15M6; M6T15; T15; M6; All 3 of the above examples yield the same result IN THEORY... However, we discovered that that placing the tool command and the M code on the same line DID NOT ALWAYS UPDATE THE FANUC SIDE. for reasons unknown, it didn't always work causing some severe crashes on proven work. The ONLY format that works all the time is placing the code on 2 separate lines T15; M6; Maybe this will help? JAY

You can do it. I verified what SPECV said and it works just fine. M53 T1 S[#10001*10000] M37 M30 This code will update the Makino side data with the value stored in fanuc tool offset #1 Thanks everyone for your very prompt help. JAY

Cascade, Yup your certainly right...But the probe software does NOT update the makino side. I want to automatically update the makino side with the compensated tool length value. Otherwise you lose the probe z calibration as soon as you do a toolchange. Follow me?

Cascade... Here is why. When we calibrate our Renishaw probe "Z" axis...The way the software compensates for z is to adjust the tool length....WELL, if you don't update the custom side, the next time you do an M6, the adjusted value is gone!

Cascade, That is exactlly what I want to do. Get tool data into the custom side. What do you mean "used to climb" haha Specv, That is exactlly what I am looking to do. How can I specify; M53 T1 S#10001 M37 The above code won't work right cause of the decimal place in #10001 Thats where I am having trouble...

Cascade, My machines are in a cell, 3 A77's, 12 pallets. I know it goes both ways...You command an "M53" and that put the machine in TOOL OFFSET DATA REGISTER MODE, then you can set the custom side data. I am have trouble "finding" the data that exists in the fanuc side to update. Does that make sense? P.S. Are you a climber?

Alright, this is my machine; Makino A77. Fanuc PRO3 control w/ custom makino frontside. We use the tool detail function on the custom side to store all of our tool data. Then upon toolchange, we use the "M56 H1 D2" to transfer data from the custom side, to the "fanuc" side. My question is this. How do I copy tool data in the opposite direction? i.e. If I enter data in the Fanuc tool offset screen, how can I update the custom side data? Jay

Alright, You know when you click the FILE menu in Excel(or ANY software for that matter), some of the menu choices are hidden until you press the stupid "down" arrow at the bottom? I want to DISABLE that function. I don't like it when some of the choices hidden. I think it is an XP registry setting. Am I correct? any help would be appreciated. JAY

Alright I have an issue with OSP 100m. I want to call a subroutine via a variable. Imagine that variable 100 is equal to 8201 In fanuc, all I do is "M98 P#100" and the control gets subroutine O8201. No problem. Can anyone tell me how to do this in Okuma talk? CALL O=VC100 (DOESN'T WORK) CALL O[VC100] (DOESN'T WORK) Thanks, JAY

quote: proofread, proofread, proofread.... Add Reply. Cheers man It's all good...

James, Fair enough. I have 9 years working with HSK100 and around 8 years with HSK63. They work much better in every aspect compared to steep tapers, in my experience. I will agree that the BIG PLUS is very close to HSK, However you didn't originally say that. quote: BT/CT beats shallow taper hands down for rigidity on radial loads HANDS DOWN. What you describe is a standard taper holder being more rigid than an elastically deformed, face contact HSK tool. That will never, ever, be the case. Given, ANY CONTAMINATION IN EITHER TOOL is cause for concern. The reason your HSK tool failed is not due to poor design or the tool holders inability to do it's job. The reason it failed is due to contamination at the interface! And one experiment is not enough to come to a dramatic conclusion that "BT is stiffer than HSK" Unless you have some "magical" machine that has a "swap spindle" button, I assume your test was conducted of 2 seperate machine tools. Comparing apples to oranges. Not a very good way to come to a conclusion, is it? Anyhow, to close...Face contact and elastic deformation will always be more rigid than without. HSK has both, Big plus has both. CT and BT do not have either. Thats all I have to say.

quote: Going to have to take issue with that statement. There is NO WAY that an HSK 63 (HSK's equivalent to the 40 Taper) is more rigid than a BT. HSK, CAPTO, KM, ALL are SHALLOW TAPER. There is less surface area on those tool types than BT/CT style. The main advantage to the shallow taper is the face contact, your Z depths will repeat better than CT/BT unless of course you're using the BIG Plus type. BT/CT beats shallow taper hands down for rigidity on radial loads HANDS DOWN. Shallow taper is suseptible to cracking etc... With shallow taper holders you HAVE to employ High Speed Machining strategies, whereas with CT/BT, if you want to HOG you can, so long as you have the Horse Power. I love when opinions get in the way of fact. HAhahah. Here are some facts; -HSK connection delivers 2 times more clamping force to the taper due to internal clamp design. -Radial stiffness of HSK63 is 5 time greater than CT40 equivilant. FIVE TIMES! -Torsional stiffness is slightly higher (~10%)in the HSK taper. HERE are some opinions; -here is NO WAY that an HSK 63 (HSK's equivalent to the 40 Taper) is more rigid than a BT. -BT/CT beats shallow taper hands down for rigidity on radial loads HANDS DOWN. -With shallow taper holders you HAVE to employ High Speed Machining strategies. How much ACTUAL experience do you have with HSK? Based on your opinion, I'd say zero. Feel free to enlighten me...

Capto and KM tooling provide simultaneous taper and face contact. This is VERY rigid. On par with HSK for rigidity. BT is a taper only design. MUCH LESS RIGID. UNLESS of course the BT is called "Big Plus"... The "Big plus" incorporates face contact into the 40 taper design. If it is "BT40 big plus", then ANY of the systems will perform very close to equal.

Has anyone encountered an M-code option to control rapid overide? I know feed and spindle can be defeated, but can the rapid be controled via M-code? Oh yeah, Fanuc control, Makino machine, PRO3 frontside.

Thanks to some excellent support from ChrisM I'm up and running with my post. Cheers!