Just now, #Rekd™ said:

Bob are using a HASP?  If so update the HASP drivers. This caused me issues on a system upgraded to Windows 10.

No, this license doesn't use the hasp.  The license has to be activated/ deactivated via the activation wizard.

6 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

Have you given Mastercam full permission in Program files? That is one of the first things I do every time I install a new version of Mastercam. Even though you are admin you don't have full permissions to the folder until you manually go give them. 

Not sure.  How do I go about that?  We recently updated all of our systems to Windows 10 and did fresh installs and everything works fine.  This system was done the same as the rest.

Mastercam somehow got corrupted on my system and it crashes every time I open it.  Initially it said it was having issues with the config file, then the graphics card.  I uninstalled and reinstalled, not it will not open without crashing.  How do I do a COMPLETE uninstall so there are no remnants left?

Time will tell.  Esprit is currently posting programs that run on the machine flawlessly but Mastercam has yet to do that without edits.  We got a mill program to run and we posted a program with both milling on the upper turret and turning on the lower turret and it didn't post the M-code to put the main spindle into turning mode.  This isn't the NTX prototype...  This stuff should have been dialed years ago...  My overwhelming preference is to program the machine in Mastercam but not if we need to hand edit every program.  That really goes against how we operate as a shop.  I'm also not too keen on spending a crapload of time and back and forth trying to get the post working.  Making parts pays the bills, not screwing around with posts..

I am machining some holes with the B-axis on a face plate that is ~12" in diameter.  These holes are spaced around the perimeter and I want the C-axis to index to the various hole locations because I think the B-axis would overtravel trying to get to the lower ones using the X-Y travels.  Is there a simple way to accomplish this?  There are 15 holes so I really don't want to create planes if I can avoid it.

20 hours ago, Jayson Kramer-CNC Software said:

Bob,

Did you get any basic training for MT. you have a great help here from great users. I will try monitoring this to see if I can help at times to. .

 

Not yet, I have it scheduled for next week.  I have Esprit training on Tuesday and Wednesday, them Mcam on Friday.  It is going to be a long week...

Mcam NW got it figured out.  It was a setting under 'tokens', machine parameters, tool number base for B-axis head.  It was set to 1000, set it to zero and whala!  Good to go.

Currently working my way through the application guide one page at a time...

Okay, back to it today...  I have a tool numbered T6005 in Mastercam but it is consistently posting as T7005 in the NC code.  I have made a vew adjustments to the machine control tool settings but it makes no difference.  Any ideas?

35 minutes ago, [email protected] said:

Sounds like you got a lot of great guidance here, Bob. We look forward to seeing you for training soon. 

Yes, and thank you for the help today, you guys at MCAM NW were on the ball and very responsive and I really appreciate it.

Thanks, just downloaded it.

Got off the phone with MCAM NW and Tim gave a few pointers to get going.  First is to read the machine application guide and go over the demo file that was included.  I am getting code posted now but the machine still isn't liking it for some reason.  It alarms on G41 but if we edit that to G42 it runs fine.  We are climb milling a bore with an end mil and it is just a simple test program.

40 minutes ago, MIL-TFP-41 said:

When we first got mill-turn (for the exact machine...NTX2000 SZM) it was a HUGE help to go through the Mastercam Mill-Turn Tutorial. You pretty much have to follow the workflow they outline. It is very frustrating at first, but like anything, once you get used to it....it works.

Also make sure you got through the application guide...this will get you through the many settings that are buried in Code Expert.

The code we get is very good. We also drive a NT3200 will mill turn. Never had a wrong tool number...that one seems odd.

 

Where would I find the tutorial?

5 minutes ago, gcode said:

But with the right work and the right guy programing it, these babies are a license to print money

10 minutes ago, gcode said:

 

We ordered a  Vericut machine last week... between buying the models from Mori and CGtech's normal bill

and a freight car's worth of Sandvik Capto C8 tool holders the bosses are getting tired of writting checks for

getting this one on line.

Postability did say they could do machine sim for it, but at the time I did not have models and I did not get a formal quote

I regret that every time I program this machine

Yes, I'm cutting the checks for this one and I'm getting tired of it too!  It is expensive to tool one of these up.

5 minutes ago, JParis said:

OK, you'll get IOF output first in Codemeter....then you post process out of Codemeter...doing a "Save As" at posting is the only way I have found....

That option doesn't exist as the posting process doesn't technically take place in "Mastercam"

Bummer, I guess it pays to get the name correct right at the start

21 minutes ago, gcode said:

I have no experience with Mastercam Mill Turn, but we recently bought a 2007 Mori NT6600 and a Postability post

We had to get one edit to get tool numbers outputting properly, but other than that, output is edit free

The machine is 13 years new (200 hours on it) and we did not get models so no machine sim

I've ordered models (solid gold ) from Japan and have issued a PO for Vericut

Programming a machine like this without machine sim is NOT fun.. but Postabiity's code is post and go.

 

Machine sim as in Vericut or Mastercam machine sim?  We did order the CAD from Mori as well.

24 minutes ago, JParis said:

:headscratch:

I dunno   

 

Got it....slow double click on the name...nope, just the comment

For NC output...  In mill I select all of the operations, right click and 'edit selected operations', and change nc file name.  Not there in MT...

I really appreciate the help!

Also, if I change the name of an operation group how do I change the names of the individual operations?  Damn this brings back memories of learning mill 15 years ago...  Every little thing...

5 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

They are using MP.NET and the post is not accessible to the end user.

Where would I make the changes for tooling output?

1 minute ago, JParis said:

For your turning yes...for milling you will make your planes...

When I make my milling planes, which do I use as the WCS?

When programming for indexing...

1 minute ago, JParis said:

Assuming your standard XYZ WCS as a base...

The X+ direction will be your Z0 face....Y+ will be your back plane...Z+ is looking straight down from above....

I place my centered on the origin hairs, then I transform it X- so the right face is on the origin.

Perfect, that is what I arrived at to make it work.  It is a little frustrating but I'll get used to it I guess.  I assume I will not program from the Top plane, I will use the planes the job setup created?

2 minutes ago, crazy^millman said:

The machine environment it completely different like John said. However once you get get into the swing of things you will be able to wrap your head around it.

Right, just trying to get over the initial learning curve.  Where do I find the post?

11 minutes ago, JParis said:

As you go through the set up, which you MUST do first, it will all fall into the correct positions.

The workflow in MT vs standalone MCAM is definitely different...it does work but it's different

Left spindle on the origin, the right spindle is created automagically going through the Job Setup

 

Right, but when I initially import the part I plan to program, where do I put it?  If I orient the part relative to the 'Top' plane with the part axis aligned to the Top plane's Z-axis it doesn't go well.  If I align the part to the Top plane's X-axis it works much better.  It appears that I shouldn't align the part to the Top plane coordinates as it would go into the machine.

12 station lower turret with 12k live tooling and y-axis

John, how much programming have you done in MT?  How do you like it?  What machines are you programming with it?

In the job setup the WCS is set tp 'Top' but that has Z pointing toward the ceiling, 90 degrees off from the part axis.  The stock and jaws are shown along the X-axis of the Top plane as well.  It is a little confusing.  The plane that reflects the correct orientation of the part, stock, and jaws was created by Mastercam along with 6-8 additional planes.  This plane is:

DMG Mori Seiki NTX2000 1500SZM - Gen 1, which is the second plane created after DMG Mori Seiki NTX2000 1500SZM - Gen WCS.  The Gen WCS matches the orientation of the Top plane but is in a different location by several inches.  It looks like Mastercam is trying to do a lot to mimic the machine's coordinate system locations and I'm not sure I'm crazy about that.

20k Capto C6.  Using Sandvik Capto C4 quick change on the lower turret.