I post a link of Iraqis tortured in the hands of US soldiers, and Mr. "Bullines" closes the thread calling it "political". http://www.emastercam.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...=1;t=010710;p=0 Isn't that a hypocrisy and bullying Mr. "Bullines" to close one thread and leave the other "political" ones alone?!!! Aren't these following threads political dear Administrator? Please give a logical reply. My intention was to show war does not solve a single problem and rather breeds more hate and violence. With all due respect, I don't think your censorship will help to that end. Regards, Jaws http://www.emastercam.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic;f=1;t=010547 http://www.emastercam.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic;f=1;t=010692 http://www.emastercam.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic;f=1;t=009928 http://www.emastercam.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic;f=1;t=010639 http://www.emastercam.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...ic;f=1;t=010604 http://www.emastercam.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...ic;f=1;t=010402

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444 No comment. A picture is a thousand words.

WTF you're talking about? Me stirring **** up?! or the guy who pulls up old threads and posts them here. Look dimwit, I don't ask your permission when I come to this forum. If you too have too much time in your hand, go and chit chat with your mama, because without you idiots inflaming posts and aiming for cheap shots there won't be any problem.

Winnie Teh Pooh? Pooh! Pooh! Pooh!

What a sick character you are Millman^Crazy, diggin' all that from 7-8 months ago. Either you are suffering from inferiority complex or must've a lot of time in your hand, or both. GET A LIFE!

Admins, Thanks for changing font color and other improvements you've made to the forum. It looks much better now! Cheers!

quote: I mean if you want to pick a fight go pick a fight but if Jaws was the man he thinks he is he would have never repsonded back in the first place and would have taken any comments directed at him as just water under the bridge. I will still be around but just like I said really got better things to do then listen to some moran babble on like an idoit.Why should I take verbal abuse from some punks here??? What gives them the right to attack me for a color change? One has called me "xxxx", the other has called "jerk". I will respond in like. "Respect" is a two way street. [ 11-13-2003, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: Jaws ]

The writers of the above four posts, you're bunch od loosers. I frankly don't give a rat arse if you help or not, becuase your rationality sucks, and with your help I would crash the machines. You got it all wrong, your bean size brain is rotten, because you 4 guys think, noobies do not have a right to speak here, they do not have a right to make an opinion, they do not have a right to type anything, and if they want to say something they have to raise their hand first. Well, wake up and smell the coffe boys (men?) I would never hire you, I would not want to be hired by you, I wish I never come across the likes of you. You could be a very skillful machinist, but you talk and walk like outdated beings that smell badly and can't make a comprehensive argument. You are from old school of thinking, that of "dog eat dog", or, "survival of the fittest" gang. And the funny thing is, most of the people attacking me here so far happen to be Americans! Go figure! And Millman^Crazy (Where did you learn to talk like that?!) WOW!! What a graceful retort. What a fantastic treasury of knowledge and wisdom you have skillfully displayed for us all. A vocabulary that teaches and enlightens the world of emotion and integrity. A sweeping gesture of worldly enthusiasm and love for your fellow man. A stunning and apocalyptic response that vears towards an intellectual level that no forum poster could possibly attain. You have my deepest and most profound respect and I see you as the elite on this board. You are a mountian among men. A lion among petty sheep. A navigator through the star studded sky. Another wonderous display of unbelievable certainty and structure. You are a dancer among the rhythmless and a genius among the simple souls that wander across your path. I bow to you and your stunning posts of extravagant intellectualism and mistique. The world begs for your return as a child begs to be taught. You F:A:N:N:Y =============================================== L Hanft; quote: I'd never expect a site to change to suite my needs... What a selfish request. L Hanft, to you I only say, that was not my "expectation" to suite my needs. As I have said it numerous times, and you would have seen them had you red the entire thread, the change I asked for would benefit everyone, not just me. Contrary to what you say, it was not a "selfish" request. It was for more clarity and easier reading of the site. [ 11-12-2003, 11:52 PM: Message edited by: Jaws ]

With one color change request, I made 3 friends, got two leads and found out who the trolls are! In the future you imbeciles (you know who you are) don't bother even reading my threads, because I would not need/ask/want help from the likes of you. It is good to find out "problematic" folks and those who think they know everything, think they can be disrespectful to noobies, and think they are the jack of all trades and master on none. Color change request, IMO, was/is a valid request. I have my windows settings set to "default" so that is why the topic column shows as dark orange. The green color that I saw looked just fine, but it was set back to original settings by dave. Finally my message to all newbies: IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN YOUR MIND SAY IT, SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS, REQUESTS, CRITICS, IDEAS,.....AND DO NOT BE AFFRAID OF TROLLS PULLING YOUR LEG AND TRYING TO SILENCE YOU. THEY ARE USED TO BEING TREATED LIKE A DIRT AT THEIR PLACE OF WORK AND TAKE THEIR FRUSTRATION ON OTHERS. THERE IS NO COMFORT IN TRUTH.

Nice try! What would you call someone who calls you a "Jerk"? He is called a coward because instead of standing up for the truth he is covering the arse of his buddy. THAT IS COWARDICE. And buckethead, go read my reply to you one more time. You apparently did not understand anything I said there. I repeat: quote: "Why do you think you have to “qualify” and score each and every suggestion or request by “members”? Why not simply voice you are pro or against the said “suggestion”, with your own reason for it, and politely leave it at that?! This is exactly why I wrote my lead post in that manner, because I knew there are always few (out of 7000) members who think they are better than the rest of us. There is no comfort in truth.

Don't worry brother, I'll respect you as a coward.

quote: PS I don`t give a damn for the post count when I look at the men ! Having seen how "some" members treat newcomers on other post, based on the number of their threads, prompted me to pose my request in the lead post in that fashion. In other words, I respectfully asked to "not bother" replying but they replied with insult anyway. Believe me, even if I had not written my lead post the way I did, their replies would still be the same. Call it " Preemptive strike"!

BUCKET HEAD: quote: The reason I brought up the fact that you had little number of posts,and I didn't think Dave would change it,was cause there are a lot of "fly by nighters" that come here and think that they can just come in here and make it the way they want it. Your error in judgment here is that you “thought” Dave will not react on my demand, which is not a big deal and is negligible; however, your gross mistake was “generalizing” and thinking I am a "fly by nighters" and took upon yourself to prevent my concern from even being addressed. I mean, who the hell do you really think you are?! Why do you think you have to “qualify” and score each and every suggestion or request by “members”? Why not simply voice you are pro or against the said “suggestion”, with your own reason for it, and politely leave it at that?! This is exactly why I wrote my lead post in that manner, because I knew there are always few (out of 7000) members who think they are better than the rest of us. There is no comfort in truth. I could have said something like “trolls please do not respond”, or ”only those who agree with me respond only”. But that would be irrational and illogical, since I would not make a request to gain “personally”. I had the interest of the whole forum in my mind all along, and suggesting that I have insulted all members of the forum is at best ridiculous and at worst it’s barking at the wrong tree. Having more post (and that is something to pause on; is it “quality” posts, or just the “quantity” that matters), does not necessarily give you the right to boycott and discredit a so-called “noobi” altogether. The change I was looking for was not just for myself; everyone would benefit from it. quote: "If you are mad for my response to you,then take it out on me. Not the fellow members that I have grown to like soo much." It was not only your feedback that was the problem, there were few others as well. quote: "Ooh,and while we are on the subject of "Democratic"... How democratic is it it if things don't go your way? How democratic is it if we don't have a right to an opinion?" You are entitled to your opinion and have the right to express it (I walk the talk too), and that is precisely why I wanted to hear from other members. ================================================= Midnite_Oil; You make few good points. What can I say. I read other people’s posts, and I saw how “oldies” treat so-called “noobies”. That was the rational behind typing my lead post like that. I also hate people jumping to conclusion without even knowing me, like “he is young grad just outta school!”. WRONG!. I am a journeyman Machinist in my late 30’s with years of experience in industry and in working with people. I just hate the idea of having fear to post something, then someone saying “get an eye exam” and rubbish comments like that, that gets my nerves. I do not intend to generalize, but I see how and what people here talk and type and makes me a bit defensive. I wish I could think “positive” and think everyone is O.K., but realistically, there are few bad apples and my warning in the beginning was to them. And exactly they were the ones attacking me. I just rest my case. ================================================== Hardmill, Jack Mitchell , Thanks for your feedbacks. ================================================== As for analy retentive redneck, you are an xxxx, you’ve always been an xxxx, and continue with this attitude and you’ll remain an xxxx for the rest of your miserable life. Asking for a simple goddamn color change does not in any shape or form give you the right to be arrogant and should not have hurt your fragile feeling, you pussycat. Don’t bother replying to this, until you apologize you’re on ignore list as of today. You are foul and disgusting. [ 11-12-2003, 04:20 AM: Message edited by: Jaws ]

Just like a machine shop. Lots of good machinists but some with only grade six schooling with poor human skills. (No offence is intended, just read “some” of the responses and imagine the tune of voice!) THIS IS NOT A MACHINE SHOP, THIS IS A FORUM ON WWW, PLEASE DIG IT! My screen is set to “default” windows values, so any color code in the html will show exactly as it’s written in the website’s design. If I change my color settings only to suite this forum, I would be getting totally different colors on all other sites in the entire World Wide Web! A simple (respectful vs. rude) comment/suggestion/opinion would be sufficient, as opposed to attacking me for having only 14 posts. Or even daring to ask for a color change. This is what I once meant by this forum not being “democratic” and open. There is a atmosphere of fear and intimidation just like the type you would feel at work in a machine shop, and it is so prevalent and widespread, so ingrained in the minds of “some” people here that they don’t even realize that they are ill and need help! Just like living under a dictatorship for many many years and not realizing that there is something called freedom! Or living in a desert for so long and not ever seeing water and ocean (remember “water world”?!) When I was in college studying Mechanical Engineering technology, we had a course called “Operation Management”. We studied thoroughly late Dr. Deming’s 14 points, just in case we were hired as managers upon graduation. I suggest all of you to do a search on it and read for yourself, IT IS GOOD FOR YOU! One of the points is “Eliminate fear from the workplace!”, since workers would better perform in an atmosphere which is free of fear/intimidation/coercion and threat. Dr. Deming is father of Quality Control and thought the science of “Quality” to Japanese in Japan for 40 years, and was not even known in his own country, the USofA! It is with this spirit that I work and live, at it is with this spirit that I talk and came to this forum. So if I will be shunned everytime that I open my mouth, I’d rather just stay solely as a reader without contributing anything to this forum. Or alternatively, “some” members can cut down on their “ego” just by a bit, and accept the fact here everyone is equal and have the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else in expressing their opinion(s), regardless of the number of their posts. I said “accept” as opposed to “tolerate”. The way you talk and express yourself is a reflection of your manner. I was looking for an educated response and “feedback” vs. cheap shots that “some” here resorted to. And looking at the “type” of replies, it is very clear who are those that “think they own this place”. But I am not here to teach morality. I am here to learn as much as I can on Mastercam. ================================================== And hey Rekd, do you always play a tough guy behind your monitor?! Do not, ever, talk to me again like that, because next time my response to you may cause me to be banned. Period.

Would it be too much to ask the moderator(s)/admin(s) to kindly change the color of the "TOPIC" column?! The current color which is something like orange or light brown is a strain on the eyes and I find it hard to everytime focus to be able to read it. It can be white like the "POSTER NAME" column or light blue or "anything" else which is ligher and easier to read. I hope older memebers of this forum (some of which think they own this place) will not jump in defence of existing color. Thanks. [ 11-09-2003, 04:06 AM: Message edited by: Jaws ]