HAAS connections on a DB25

[Guest]

Serial port connections on a HAAS?

 

Are the the same a fanuc controller

 

2

3

4-5 jumped

6-8-20 jumped

7

 

Then 2-3 reversed on the other end

[Josh T™]

Thats what we use John. All the cables we have here are that config except the Okuma.

[Guest SAIPEM]

JP,

 

It's a standard Null-Modem wiring.

[Guest]

Thanks guys.

 

OK, how about switch boxes?

 

I just got back from Radio Shack and Staples, no go, blast from the past.

 

Anyone know where I might find a switch box?

[Guest SAIPEM]

Try Frys.com

[Randy Morton @ Clem Industrial]

My trash bin....

 

 

Hey wait, I thought JMP = I HATE HAAS ??? You willingly took a job on a site that has HAAS, John? Your standards seem to weighning...

[Guest]

quote:

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You willingly took a job on a site that has HAAS, John?

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shhhhhhhh, don't tell anyone

 

I really want to go DNC but I am spending a good deal elsewhere so I told my the pres I would broach that subject until next year. So in the mean time I need to set up some serial communication.

[Guest SAIPEM]

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/2096652#detailed

[Guest]

Thanks Saipem.

 

I found a 4 port one here

 

http://www.computergate.com/products/item....=WSB254&bcodes=

 

Here's another one too

 

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepar...id=10103&style=

[thoskins]

Have you considered buying a usb to serial cable.

You could have as many serial ports as you do usb ports.

[Guest]

Dumb question

 

I am wondering, I've connected machines and set up the communications before but I am at a loss on the cable connections between the computer com port and the back of the switch box.

 

Do I maintain the same connections that I created at the box ends?

 

How about handling the change for the DB25 on the box end to a DB9 on the computer end?

[Guest SAIPEM]

JP,

 

The answer is yes.

 

Null-Modem Cable TO the box from the PC.

Null-Modem Cable FROM the box to the Machine.

 

The Tx/Rx pins get swapped at the termination point so it's important that you make all your cables as if the boxes aren't there.

[Guest]

Thank You

[Ocean Lacky™]

...........and, if that doesn't work, try it the other way!

 

 

[Guest SAIPEM]

Doh!

[Colin Gilchrist]

Normally on a Haas I just use a three wire connection. I know it isn't "technically" correct, but I just cross pins 2 and 3 and run # 7 straight through. I haven't found it necessary to jumper any pins together yet. That is not to say it isn't a good idea, but I haven't found it to really be necessary. Especially on a Haas. They are pretty forgiving in my experience. Just set everything to software handshaking and you should be set.

 

So from the computer to the switch box I just set up a DB9 to DB25 connector and I only hook up pin 7 and cross pins 2 and 3.

 

HTH,

[Guest]

Well, I crossed my 2 & 3 wires at the box end, so I "assume" I would just connect straight through to the db9 at this point.

[Colin Gilchrist]

Correct John, you should only have one crossed pair of wires.

 

[Guest]

Maybe THAT"S why I'm always in so much trouble, they keep telling me I must have some crossed wiring.

 

[Guest SAIPEM]

With a DB9 to DB25 null-modem connector, pins 2 & 3 on the DB9 Side connect directly to pins 2 & 3 on the DB25 side. It's a straight pass thru.

DB25 to DB25 has pins 2 & 3 swapped.

 

If it is strictly a DB9 to DB25 adapter then pins 2 & 3 are swapped.

 

Sorry for any confusion JP.

 

The EIA-232 Standard

 

[ 04-17-2007, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: SAIPEM ]

[Guest]

 

Ok, I have all of the wiring done and one machine connected to verify my settings before I go through plugging them all in.

 

When I send a program I get nothing, I hit reset and I get the RS-232 empty alarm, when I send out all I get is a bunch of gobbledegook.

 

Setting on both ends are

Baud 19200

Parity - none

Stop bit 1

Syncro - X on/X off

Bits 8

 

I've checked my wiring, it is correct,

2/3/7

with 2/3 reversed on the receiving end.

 

My DB25 on the box end is 2/3/7

My DB9 on the pooter i2 2/3/5

 

BTW I am using Cimco 4. something to try to communicate.

 

Any suggestions at whay I might be missing?

[Kannon]

from my settings I have

 

 

and it works for me.

[Guest SAIPEM]

Junk in the transmission means things don't match.

 

Make sure that the FIFO buffers are turned off for the ports on the PC.

 

I would use these settings instead to start with.

 

9600 bps

7 Data Bits

2 Stops Bits

Even Parity

Xon/Xoff

 

 

You should also check each cable for continuity and try transmitting and receiving without the box first.

 

[ 04-17-2007, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: SAIPEM ]

[Chris Rizzo]

try the mastercam legacy communications. I've been having all sorts of issues with the other communcator in mr1. We also have machine set to DC codes.

 

also try sending from machine first and see if you get anything

[Bryan Johnson]

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My DB25 on the box end is 2/3/7

My DB9 on the pooter i2 2/3/5

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I think this is a problem. For straight thru 9-25, you need to switch 2/3.

 

Also, for Haas, set Cimco as e,7,2 and set machine as same. At machine, if you set syncro as "DC Codes" this will allow you to use the cimco "Wait for X-on" option, but XON/Xoff will also work.