Axis rotation/substitution

[landscnc]

Am simply trying to write on a 9. inch cylander. Using 4 axis HMC mill. Contour toolpath. I want to keep the X axis on centerline and only use the A-Y plus my Z depths of -.005. I have axis sustitution on, substitute X checked, cw checked but I can only get my post (generic fanuc 4 axis) to output y if I have B in the table group and axis combination page even though on axis combo page it says B in the tree and C above that. what in the world am I missing or is this a post issue. I can mass sustitute A for B after I post it but I want it to be there on its own

[Kyle Waters]

Landscnc, did you substitute for X? I just grabbed the as-shipped Generic 4 axis HMC machine def and post, created some letters in the front plane at 4.5" in Z, chained them, substituted the X axis, it looks good.

code:

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Sorry about the metric...

[landscnc]

I can get it to output YB I need it to output YA and it will only do XA

[Kyle Waters]

I added a inch file on the FTP HORIZONTAL_AXIS_SUB.MCX

[Kyle Waters]

In the post it says that the axis labels in the machine definition are not implemented. So, back up your post. Then look for the variable "srot_y", and change "B" to "A". Save it and see if that works for you. I hope that helps...maybe someone that knows what they are talking about will correct me.

[landscnc]

No that did not work. I have drawn in top, front, and right side and it still will only output XA. The tool stays on centerline of the X in verify but it is posting X moves.

[Kyle Waters]

That is odd. Is there anything against using the MPMaster post?

[landscnc]

Its telling me. Error select mach achivable tool plane with Y-axis along mach Y set and repost. Then it tells me Axis substitution is set up for vmc with Z+ zero position (planes 1+2). So I am closer with the Generic Fanuc and HAAS posts.

[landscnc]

pxyzcout1 #Axis substitution

if rot_on_x = one, #X axis substitution

[

xabs = zero #was X$ 8/11/2010

yabs = y$ #was zero 8/11/2010

zabs = z$ + (rotdia$ / two)

csav = y$ * (360 / (pi$ * rotdia$))

]

I switched the lines with the dates and it now outputs Y/A. I have no more parts to run right now but looking at the moves it looks right. If any post people see an unforseen problem please give me your input. thanks Kyle. And any posters in advance. This is in the generic HAAS 4x post.

[K2csq7]

If it is a post for a horizontal you need to have your WCS as top and your Tplane as front. your geo must also be in the front plane.

 

Some use VMC posts for HMC machines so they can still draw & toolpath everything in the top plane.

[K2csq7]

Try posting something using substitue Y and see if your modifications have effected the way X should behave when it is not being substituted.

[landscnc]

When I check substitute Y and put in 9. in. Dia. it dosent roll the lettering like it does in substitute X. Tplane front didnt work. It now posts the same as Tplane top after I switched the xabs to = zero and yabs to = y.

[K2csq7]

If what you did gave you what you wanted.. great, but I would change back your original post, until you can figure out the correct way to get what you need. (better safe than sorry)

BTW did you try getting in touch with your reseller?

[landscnc]

We did get in touch with reseller and he thought it should be drawn in the front view. Like I say it still output XA not YA. changing the post is the only thing that has worked so far.

[Jammer™]

Are you engraving on a cylinder? Have you tried the rolldie chook?