OT Siemens Traori R values in macro program.

[YoDoug®]

Hi all,

 

2 different 5 axis Chiron machines. Same Siemens control, same axis config, only difference is one is a slightly bigger machine. A program that ran good in one machine was transfered into the other machine. The machine alarms out when TRAORI is activated. The alarm is an over travel. In the system/macro for the TRAORI the machine that works has a four R values called out at the beginning. The machine that alarms has 0 for the R values. From what I can tell is that they are pivot distance from rotary head to turning spindle and maybe a rotation posiiton comp value. Anyone have any info on these values and a procedure to measure them.

 

TIA.

 

Here is the beginning of the code from the good machines system/macro for TRAORI

 

; Hinweis: Hier die Werte eintragen, R7 bis R10 berücksichtigen ! 

; Bei FZ08 ist der Abstand R4 ein negativer Wert, R6 ist positiv
; R1, R2, R3 sind negativ

; Bei Mill ist R4 ein Wert MIT Vorzeichen, R6 ist positiv
; R1, R2, R3 sind negativ

; Die Softwareendschalter (R7 bis R10) sind Werte mit Vorzeichen


R1=0   ;X1=Plananlage Backenfutter von Maschinennullpunkt
R2=0   ;Y1=Rundachse Mitte (A-Achse) von Maschinennullpunkt
R3=0   ;Z1=Rundachse Mitte (A-Achse) von Maschinennullpunkt
R4=0   ;X1=Drehpunkt Schwenkachse( bis Drehmitte Spindel
R6=0   ;Z1=Drehpunkt Schwenkachse( bis Plananlage Spindel

R7=-0.111 ;Softwareendschalter B-ACHSE MINUS ,Kopf
R8=0.111 ;Softwareendschalter B-ACHSE PLUS  ,Kopf
R9=-0.222 ;Softwareendschalter A-ACHSE MINUS ,Schwenktisch
R10=0.222 ;Softwareendschalter A-ACHSE PLUS ,Schwenktisch


; Ab hier keine Aenderungen mehr
;***************************************************************

R1=R1*INCHFACTOR
R2=R2*INCHFACTOR
R3=R3*INCHFACTOR
R4=R4*INCHFACTOR
R5=R5*INCHFACTOR
R6=R6*INCHFACTOR   

[Zoober]

Doug, I went thru that on a Huron with Traori.

There are so many values that are used to calculate traori, that their best FACTORY guy from France took over a week to laser and set.

OK, maybe it was just because he was french.

 

Seriously, some of these valuse included how much movement during clamp and unclamp conditions so that 5x worked as accurately as 3+2, pivot, AC offsets, etc.

I would contact Chiron.

[YoDoug®]

I kind of figured I was in over my head. In addition to being the Okuma/Hardinge distributor up here in MN we are also a rep for Chiron. The problem I face is that Chiron handles all of their apps and service so when our customers need help I am often trying to find an answer to a problem on a machine that I know nothing about.

 

Thanks Robert.

[Zoober]

Been there. Kinda sucks.

But I hope your new gig is going good!