well we called this one guy at NorthWest Tech, but didnt get a reply from him. I think what im going to do....well tell me if this will work to... just draw it in a flat view, the top shape. then just put the tool paths in and step down mill it. instead of trying to draw it 3d in autocad, then exporting it to MC. only wish MC was easier to draw in.... im thinkin this would work. after all its workin with the Ford emblem im making right now, which is flippin sweet so far. opening so many ideas for me to make. ill have to get some pics up of it tomorrow afternoon for you guys to see. and hey, its my 1st actual metal thing ive milled.

didnt work .

well, still havent got the program to run. got a local machine shop to make me 20 of the parts. Guys were really nice and helped me out some w/ the program stuff. Learned my lesson, make sure you can do it before saying you can do it . anyway.... Funny stuff, I took one of the mastercam lesson's in the 2d toolpath book, drew it up, posted it, and it ran just fine. milled it out and everything....i think ill try my program again tomorrow. aye, crazy machine's these days .

i think im just going to take it to a machine shop around here and see if they can run my program or something.

ok new "alarm message". god this is getting old. "2520 ORD 1 RS485 device absent" "2520 ORD 2 RS485 device absent(AC)" right....anyone?

well i re-drew the stuff, but now i cant get it to load again, arg. ill have my teach try and do what ever he did to get the last one loaded.

yep, only....more closed off and what not. and its a EMCO 50-PC mill. what the difference is, i dont know.

(PROGRAM NAME - O8765) (DATE=DD-MM-YY - 18-12-03 TIME=HH:MM - 19:59) N100G20 N102G0G17G40G49G80G90 (3/16 FLAT ENDMILL TOOL - 1 DIA. OFF. - 41 LEN. - 1 DIA. - .1875) N104T1M6 N106G0G90G54X6.2228Y8.0831A0.S2852M3 N108G43H1Z.25 N110Z.1 N112G1Z0.F6.16 N114Y8.6047Z-.0273 N116X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.0436 N118G3X5.579Y9.1006Z-.0739R.7557 N120X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.1041R.7557 N122G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.1204 N124Y8.0831Z-.1477 N126X5.1091Y7.889Z-.1614 N128G3X5.579Y7.7431Z-.1876R.8295 N130X6.049Y7.889Z-.2137R.8295 N132G1X6.2228Y8.0831Z-.2274 N134Y8.6047Z-.2547 N136X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.271 N138G3X5.579Y9.1006Z-.3013R.7557 N140X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.3315R.7557 N142G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.3478 N144Y8.0831Z-.3751 N146X5.1091Y7.889Z-.3888 N148G3X5.579Y7.7431Z-.4149R.8295 N150X6.049Y7.889Z-.4411R.8295 N152G1X6.2228Y8.0831Z-.4548 N154Y8.6047Z-.4821 N156X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.4984 N158G3X5.579Y9.1006Z-.5286R.7557 N160X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.5589R.7557 N162G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.5752 N164Y8.0831Z-.6025 N166X5.1091Y7.889Z-.6162 N168G3X5.579Y7.7431Z-.6423R.8295 N170X5.7245Y7.7559Z-.65R.8295 N172X6.049Y7.889R.8295 N174G1X6.2228Y8.0831 N176Y8.6047 N178X6.1018Y8.8906 N180G3X5.579Y9.1006R.7557 N182X5.0563Y8.8906R.7557 N184G1X4.9353Y8.6047 N186Y8.0831 N188X5.1091Y7.889 N190G3X5.579Y7.7431R.8295 N192X5.7245Y7.7559R.8295 N194G0Z.25 N196X6.1728Y8.1022 N198Z.1 N200G1Z0. N202Y8.5946Z-.0258 N204X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.041 N206G3X5.579Y9.0506Z-.0687R.7057 N208X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.0964R.7057 N210G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.1116 N212Y8.1022Z-.1374 N214X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.1498 N216G3X5.579Y7.7931Z-.1741R.7795 N218X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.1984R.7795 N220G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.2107 N222Y8.5946Z-.2365 N224X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.2517 N226G3X5.579Y9.0506Z-.2794R.7057 N228X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.3071R.7057 N230G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.3223 N232Y8.1022Z-.3481 N234X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.3604 N236G3X5.579Y7.7931Z-.3847R.7795 N238X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.409R.7795 N240G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.4214 N242Y8.5946Z-.4472 N244X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.4624 N246G3X5.579Y9.0506Z-.4901R.7057 N248X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.5178R.7057 N250G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.533 N252Y8.1022Z-.5588 N254X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.5711 N256G3X5.579Y7.7931Z-.5954R.7795 N258X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.6197R.7795 N260G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.632 N262Y8.4448Z-.65 N264Y8.5946 N266X6.0598Y8.8614 N268G3X5.579Y9.0506R.7057 N270X5.0983Y8.8614R.7057 N272G1X4.9853Y8.5946 N274Y8.1022 N276X5.1423Y7.9269 N278G3X5.579Y7.7931R.7795 N280X6.0158Y7.9269R.7795 N282G1X6.1728Y8.1022 N284Y8.4448 N286G0Z.25 N288M5 N290G91G28Z0. N292G28X0.Y0.A0. N294M30 % that is the code that works, well loads.

the first code i posted was mpfan. then we realized we had to change that. so we did... we have done the home and the location of the material thing. my question, does it matter where the part is drawn in mastercam in relation to 0,0,0.

yep, i know about the f9 and the x,y,z axies and what not. now, that G54 you speak of....what is that.

yea, im actually trying to run the program now. the machine..aye..well its pretty old i believe. small thats for sure. im wondering, would the placement of the object in mastercam, like on the screen in relation to the point 0,0,0 effect the limits? if so, i think this might be the problem...lmk.

ok.....NEW PROBLEM. i dont remember exactly what it said, but something along the lines of... SW limits not feasable or something like that, will find out exactly what it says monday.

ok, im guna go in really early tomorrow. around 6:30 or so. so i hope to have that new code up around then to. then ill let you guys go to work lookin at it, while im guna see if i can make one or two . also, went to that shop in town today. the guys guna program it for me and then im guna take that over to the hs and see if i can use that. might not need it, but if this one doesnt work right...yeah. 1 toolpath down...2 to go..... oh, also the guy showed me around the shop...i was impressed. cant wait till i get this cnc stuff down, and able to work on bigger cnc machines .

there we go, guna be made out of black delrin.

ok well my teach was messin around with it, not really sure what he did. but he got it to load up in the program. He said something about the "limits" wernt right so, hes guna play around with it somemore today and tomorrow morning we should be able to make one. im tryin to get a pic of what im actually trying to make, well a render. just to show you guys just how easy this part is. its quite simple...lol. cant believe its giving me such a problem.

haha good times right there. ill try that tomorrow morning. after school today im going over to a machine shop that's here in town. Guna see if i can get a proto type made and if they can help me out some.

tried it, and still doesnt work. all that comes up is _N5 ; %

ok here is a copy of the one that works.... G80 G0 N2 G0 X.3718 Y.3226 N3 S2500 M3 N4 G43 H1 Z1. N5 Z.1 N6 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0 N7 X2.6282 N8 X2.6055 Y.4132 N9 X2.6775 N10 Y.5037 N11 X2.6647 N12 G2 X2.4026 Y.3275 I-.2621 J.1068 N13 G1 X1.5605 N14 G2 X1.2775 Y.6105 I0. J.283 N15 G1 Y1.1895 N16 G2 X1.5605 Y1.4725 I.283 J0. N17 G1 X2.4026 N18 G2 X2.6544 Y1.3189 I0. J-.283 N19 G1 X2.6775 N20 Y1.4094 N21 X2.5807 N22 X2.6775 Y1.5 N23 X.3225 N24 Y1.4094 N25 X1.3824 N26 G3 X1.3088 Y1.3189 I.1781 J-.22 N27 G1 X.3225 N28 Y1.2283 N29 X1.2802 N30 G3 X1.2775 Y1.1895 I.2804 J-.0388 N31 G1 Y1.1377 N32 X.3225 N33 Y1.0472 N34 X1.2775 N35 Y.9566 N36 X.3225 N37 Y.866 N38 X1.2775 N39 Y.7754 N40 X.3225 N41 Y.6849 N42 X1.2775 N43 Y.6105 N44 G3 X1.278 Y.5943 I.283 J0. N45 G1 X.3225 N46 Y.5037 N47 X1.2984 N48 G3 X1.3577 Y.4132 I.2621 J.1068 N49 G1 X.3225 N50 Y1.5906 N51 X.3277 N52 G2 X.3275 Y1.596 I.0723 J.0054 N53 G1 Y1.6811 N54 X.3225 N55 Y1.7717 N56 X.3275 N57 Y1.8623 N58 X.3225 N59 Y1.9528 N60 X.3275 N61 Y2.0434 N62 X.3225 N63 Y2.134 N64 X.3275 N65 Y2.2246 N66 X.3225 N67 Y2.3151 N68 X.3275 N69 Y2.4057 N70 X.3225 N71 Y2.4963 N72 X.3275 N73 Y2.5868 N74 X.3225 N75 X.3275 Y2.596 N76 G2 X.3606 Y2.6568 I.0725 J-0. N77 G1 X.3718 Y2.6774 N78 X2.6282 N79 X2.6775 Y2.5868 N80 X2.1567 N81 Y2.4963 N82 X2.6775 N83 Y2.4057 N84 X2.1567 N85 Y2.3151 N86 X2.6775 N87 Y2.2246 N88 X2.1567 N89 Y2.134 N90 X2.6775 N91 Y2.0434 N92 X2.1567 N93 Y1.9528 N94 X2.6775 N95 Y1.8623 N96 X2.1567 N97 Y1.7717 N98 X2.6775 N99 Y1.6811 N100 X2.1567 N101 Y1.596 N102 G2 X2.1565 Y1.5906 I-.0725 J0. N103 G1 X2.6775 N104 X2.1565 N105 G2 X2.0842 Y1.5235 I-.0723 J.0054 N106 G1 X1.7947 N107 G2 X1.7224 Y1.5906 I0. J.0725 N108 G1 X1.452 N109 X1.4973 Y1.6811 N110 X1.7222 N111 Y1.7717 N112 X1.5426 N113 X1.5879 Y1.8623 N114 X1.7222 N115 Y1.9528 N116 X1.6332 N117 X1.6784 Y2.0434 N118 X1.7222 N119 X1.6571 Y2.0006 N120 X1.4385 Y1.5636 N121 G2 X1.3737 Y1.5235 I-.0648 J.0324 N122 G1 X1.1105 N123 G2 X1.0457 Y1.5636 I0. J.0725 N124 G1 X1.0322 Y1.5906 N125 X.7618 N126 G3 X.762 Y1.596 I-.0723 J.0054 N127 G1 Y1.6811 N128 X.9869 N129 X.9416 Y1.7717 N130 X.762 N131 Y1.8623 N132 X.8963 N133 X.851 Y1.9528 N134 X.762 N135 Y2.0434 N136 X.8058 N137 X.762 Y2.131 N138 Y1.596 N139 G2 X.6895 Y1.5235 I-.0725 J0. N140 G1 X.4 N141 G2 X.3275 Y1.596 I0. J.0725 N142 G1 Y2.596 N143 G2 X.4 Y2.6685 I.0725 J0. N144 G1 X.9526 N145 G2 X1.0175 Y2.6284 I0. J-.0725 N146 G1 X1.2194 Y2.2246 N147 X1.2648 N148 X1.3101 Y2.3151 N149 X1.1741 N150 X1.1288 Y2.4057 N151 X1.3554 N152 X1.4007 Y2.4963 N153 X1.0836 N154 X1.0383 Y2.5868 N155 X1.4459 N156 G0 Z1. N157 X1.7383 Y.7094 N158 Z.1 N159 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0 N160 X2.2249 N161 Y.7684 N162 G2 X2.2269 Y.7857 I.0725 J0. N163 G1 X1.7383 N164 Y.8619 N165 X2.6775 N166 Y.9381 N167 X1.7383 N168 Y1.0143 N169 X2.2269 N170 G2 X2.2249 Y1.0316 I.0704 J.0172 N171 G1 Y1.0906 N172 X1.7383 N173 G0 Z1. N174 X.375 Y2.6875 N175 Z.1 N176 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0 N177 G3 X.3125 Y2.625 I0. J-.0625 N178 G1 Y.375 N179 G3 X.375 Y.3125 I.0625 J0. N180 G1 X2.625 N181 G3 X2.6875 Y.375 I0. J.0625 N182 G1 Y2.625 N183 G3 X2.625 Y2.6875 I-.0625 J0. N184 G1 X.375 N185 G0 Z1. N186 X2.6757 Y1.1895 N187 Z.1 N188 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0 N189 Y1.0316 N190 G2 X2.6132 Y.9691 I-.0625 J0. N191 G1 X2.2974 N192 G2 X2.2349 Y1.0316 I0. J.0625 N193 G1 Y1.1007 N194 X1.7283 N195 Y.6993 N196 X2.2349 N197 Y.7684 N198 G2 X2.2974 Y.8309 I.0625 J0. N199 G1 X2.6132 N200 G2 X2.6757 Y.7684 I0. J-.0625 N201 G1 Y.6105 N202 G2 X2.4026 Y.3375 I-.273 J0. N203 G1 X1.5605 N204 G2 X1.2875 Y.6105 I0. J.273 N205 G1 Y1.1895 N206 G2 X1.5605 Y1.4625 I.273 J0. N207 G1 X2.4026 N208 G2 X2.6757 Y1.1895 I0. J-.273 N209 G0 Z1. N210 X2.0842 Y1.5335 N211 Z.1 N212 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0 N213 X1.7947 N214 G2 X1.7322 Y1.596 I0. J.0625 N215 G1 Y2.1734 N216 X1.4296 Y1.568 N217 G2 X1.3737 Y1.5335 I-.0559 J.028 N218 G1 X1.1105 N219 G2 X1.0546 Y1.568 I0. J.0625 N220 G1 X.752 Y2.1734 N221 Y1.596 N222 G2 X.6895 Y1.5335 I-.0625 J0. N223 G1 X.4 N224 G2 X.3375 Y1.596 I0. J.0625 N225 G1 Y2.596 N226 G2 X.4 Y2.6585 I.0625 J0. N227 G1 X.9526 N228 G2 X1.0085 Y2.624 I0. J-.0625 N229 G1 X1.2421 Y2.1568 N230 X1.4757 Y2.624 N231 G2 X1.5316 Y2.6585 I.0559 J-.028 N232 G1 X2.0842 N233 G2 X2.1467 Y2.596 I0. J-.0625 N234 G1 Y1.596 N235 G2 X2.0842 Y1.5335 I-.0625 J0. N236 G0 Z1. N237 G0 Z3.0 N238 X0. Y0. N239 M30 N244 N249

k well wasnt able to get in to the shop today. but i do remember that the two codes looked nothing alike if that helps... EDIT: also, i found out it was actually just M30 what it was saying, not MC30. [ 12-17-2003, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Thirteenth ]

k ill try and do it after school today

i would post one, if there was one on this computer. the computer that has one that works, does not have the internet. so yeah, little stuck there. but it doesnt look anything like this one. Teach said its cuz they are completly different things, mine is a 3d type object, his was just a flat thing w/ MC wrote on it.

% O0000 (PROGRAM NAME - O1578) (DATE=DD-MM-YY - 17-12-03 TIME=HH:MM - 09:15) N100G20 N102G0G17G40G49G80G90 (3/16 FLAT ENDMILL TOOL - 1 DIA. OFF. - 41 LEN. - 1 DIA. - .1875) N104T1M6 N106G0G90G54X6.2228Y8.0831A0.S2852M3 N108G43H1Z.25 N110Z.1 N112G1Z0.F6.16 N114Y8.6047Z-.0273 N116X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.0436 N118G3X5.5791Y9.1006Z-.0739R.7557 N120X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.1041R.7557 N122G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.1204 N124Y8.0831Z-.1477 N126X5.1091Y7.889Z-.1614 N128G3X5.5791Y7.7431Z-.1876R.8295 N130X6.049Y7.889Z-.2137R.8295 N132G1X6.2228Y8.0831Z-.2274 N134Y8.6047Z-.2547 N136X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.271 N138G3X5.5791Y9.1006Z-.3013R.7557 N140X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.3315R.7557 N142G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.3478 N144Y8.0831Z-.3751 N146X5.1091Y7.889Z-.3888 N148G3X5.5791Y7.7431Z-.4149R.8295 N150X6.049Y7.889Z-.4411R.8295 N152G1X6.2228Y8.0831Z-.4548 N154Y8.6047Z-.4821 N156X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.4984 N158G3X5.5791Y9.1006Z-.5286R.7557 N160X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.5589R.7557 N162G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.5752 N164Y8.0831Z-.6025 N166X5.1091Y7.889Z-.6162 N168G3X5.5791Y7.7431Z-.6423R.8295 N170X5.7245Y7.7559Z-.65R.8295 N172X6.049Y7.889R.8295 N174G1X6.2228Y8.0831 N176Y8.6047 N178X6.1018Y8.8906 N180G3X5.5791Y9.1006R.7557 N182X5.0563Y8.8906R.7557 N184G1X4.9353Y8.6047 N186Y8.0831 N188X5.1091Y7.889 N190G3X5.5791Y7.7431R.8295 N192X5.7245Y7.7559R.8295 N194G0Z.25 N196X6.1728Y8.1022 N198Z.1 N200G1Z0. N202Y8.5946Z-.0258 N204X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.041 N206G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.0687R.7057 N208X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.0964R.7057 N210G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.1116 N212Y8.1022Z-.1374 N214X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.1498 N216G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.1741R.7795 N218X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.1984R.7795 N220G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.2107 N222Y8.5946Z-.2365 N224X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.2517 N226G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.2794R.7057 N228X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.3071R.7057 N230G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.3223 N232Y8.1022Z-.3481 N234X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.3604 N236G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.3847R.7795 N238X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.409R.7795 N240G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.4214 N242Y8.5946Z-.4472 N244X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.4624 N246G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.4901R.7057 N248X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.5178R.7057 N250G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.533 N252Y8.1022Z-.5588 N254X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.5711 N256G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.5954R.7795 N258X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.6197R.7795 N260G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.632 N262Y8.4448Z-.65 N264Y8.5946 N266X6.0598Y8.8614 N268G3X5.5791Y9.0506R.7057 N270X5.0983Y8.8614R.7057 N272G1X4.9853Y8.5946 N274Y8.1022 N276X5.1423Y7.9269 N278G3X5.5791Y7.7931R.7795 N280X6.0158Y7.9269R.7795 N282G1X6.1728Y8.1022 N284Y8.4448 N286G0Z.25 N288M5 N290G91G28Z0. N292G28X0.Y0.A0. N294M30 % that is the entire NC file. now...this is only 1 chain for the part that i need to do. I want to get something made, so i know im going in the right track. now, what is going wrong here? why isnt it reading? is the O0000 wrong? should that be changed to O1578 should the % at the very begining be deleted?

im not sure what you mean???

ok, ive got all that stuff...but... when i open up the Emco 50 PC program...and then open up the nc file or what ever...it doesnt show up.. all that shows up is _N5 ; % but when i open up the NC file i get a huge list of the commands and what not. im stumped.

% O0000 (PROGRAM NAME - O1578) (DATE=DD-MM-YY - 17-12-03 TIME=HH:MM - 07:22) N100G20 N102G0G17G40G49G80G90 (3/16 FLAT ENDMILL TOOL - 1 DIA. OFF. - 41 LEN. - 1 DIA. - .1875) N104T1M6 N106G0G90G54X6.2228Y8.0831A0.S2852M3 N108G43H1Z.25 N110Z.1 N112G1Z0.F6.16 N114Y8.6047Z-.0273 N116X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.0436 thats the very begining of the code. N244X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.4624 N246G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.4901R.7057 N248X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.5178R.7057 N250G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.533 N252Y8.1022Z-.5588 N254X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.5711 N256G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.5954R.7795 N258X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.6197R.7795 N260G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.632 N262Y8.4448Z-.65 N264Y8.5946 N266X6.0598Y8.8614 N268G3X5.5791Y9.0506R.7057 N270X5.0983Y8.8614R.7057 N272G1X4.9853Y8.5946 N274Y8.1022 N276X5.1423Y7.9269 N278G3X5.5791Y7.7931R.7795 N280X6.0158Y7.9269R.7795 N282G1X6.1728Y8.1022 N284Y8.4448 N286G0Z.25 N288M5 N290G91G28Z0. N292G28X0.Y0.A0. N294M30 % thats the end part of the code i just got. if ya need something else let me know. [ 12-17-2003, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: Thirteenth ]