WCS bug?

[Thad]

Try this. Create a rectangle and do a contour path around it. Now, create another WCS in the top view and select a different corner for your origin. Name the new WCS something different. Open the contour path, select T/C Plane button, in the far right bottom corner of the page, click Select, change it to your newly created WCS, check the bottom 2 boxes and click OK (in the new window) and regen the path. Go back into the WCS manager and you've lost the name of your new WCS. You now have 2 WCS called Top. This happens whether you create a new WCS in a named view, or at some crazy compound angled face.

 

I would appreciate anyone's input.

 

Thad

 

P.S. I'm familiar with transforming a toolpath to the new location to accomplish the same thing.

[Tim Aydt Prototek Engineering]

This has happened to me several times as well. I have had to constantly go back in and rename the WCS.

 

It's Totally Weird Man !

 

Can anyone else explain this phenomena?

[cadcam]

But it does not happen all the time.

I have to say sense te March release I have not seen it.

And I just did two files were I had to go back after a change to semi ruff and send out for stress.

So went back with wcs to change for stock left over and reset all the fin pass's and it worked perfect. was happy.

 

I do not know if there were any updated to the March Maint for WCS or as you guys are talking if there is one thing in perticler that sets it off.

[cadcam]

Thad & Tim how offten would you say in a month do you use the WCS system?

 

I know I use it sevrail times a week most of the time.

[Tim Aydt Prototek Engineering]

I haven't used it in a few weeks. I will play with it today

[Thad]

Jay,

 

It happens EVERY time for me. It happens when I take an existing op that is assigned to a standard WCS and change it to my new WCS. Is that what you're doing? I've had this problem prior to maintnance and I still have it now.

 

Thad

[Thad]

Jay,

 

I'd say that about 90% of our jobs use the WCS. Typically, it's top and bottom work, and occasional side work.

 

Thad

[Rekd™]

More like every job for me, up to several times a day...

[Thad]

Matt,

 

Do you have this problem too?

 

Thad

[Mike Whitten CAD/CAM Contractors]

I have this problem also. Even in mr0304. If I use the WCS from the beginning and don't change anything, it won't happen.

 

I need to play with it some more to find the pattern as you did. My guess is that they know about this stuff but are going to re-write everything in the next release so they don't want to put any more time into it now.

 

Mike

[Mike Whitten CAD/CAM Contractors]

Thad,

 

I logged this Bug about 1-1/2 years ago but I did not have the exact key strokes to re-create it so maybe you should send it in and let us know what they say.

 

Thanks

[Thad]

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If I use the WCS from the beginning and don't change anything, it won't happen.

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Same here, Michael.

 

Yesterday I had a file that had the left and right hand part in it. Rather than save out the opp as a separate file, I thought I'd just create a new WCS and change the origin. When I copied all my ops into the OPP group, I had to change the WCS. That's when I was reminded of this and thought I'd table it.

 

Thad

[Mike Whitten CAD/CAM Contractors]

I hear you.

 

When WCS first came out, it frustrated me so much that I did not use it for a long time. I use it now because it is so helpful. You just have to be aware of the bugs.

 

Mike

[Mike Whitten CAD/CAM Contractors]

Actually this is the only bug that I know so just take the plural out of bugs. It mostly has limitations but it is still very good.

 

Mike

[Chris Rizzo]

I use WCS daily, (well, not today yet) and have had that happen quite frequently...

 

When changing WCS, you get the pop-up that says:

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"Keep the tool and construction planes as they currently exist"

 

"Move the tool and construction planes to stay relative with the new WCS"

 

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If I select the second choice, THEN my created WCS dissappears. I always select the first choice, then seperatley change the t/c plane to match my WCS setting. HTH

[Rekd™]

No, Thad, I've never seen that. And I RAPE meh WCS' sometimes.

[Mike Whitten CAD/CAM Contractors]

cmr,

 

AAaahh!!

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Move the tool and construction planes to stay relative with the new WCS

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Thank you! this must be the problem then! Wow! that will really help us.

Hey Thad, this is great!

This is what I do so that is why my WCS dissapears!

 

Thanks again cmr,

 

Mike

[cadcam]

CMR my earler statment saying I just did this was te way you say you loose it and it worked fine on two files.

 

I am not sure waht is happening to you.

 

All I can say is I can not live without these days.

 

Reked Are you with me?

[Thad]

I'll give it a try....on TUESDAY!!!! Gotta love a 3 day weekend! Have a great weekend all and thanks for the input.

 

Thad

[Matthew]

I have this happen to me on occasion too. It happens when I change the WCS on a bunch of operations. I thought perhaps it did it because I was clicking so quickly that I might have dragged my named WCS over a another predefined WCS (top for example) and it got renamed. Once I determined which one it was, I just rename it again and I'm all set. I use the option "Move the tool and construction planes to stay relative with the new WCS" all the time (with no exceptions for what I do) so I do not have to select the WCS, and tool plane and construction plane.

[Rick McAllister]

I've had the 'Missing Name Phenom.' happen time after time. If I need to assign a new WCS to operations I've found I had to regen and save after updating no more than three toolpaths. I also found that the System View that appears, after a name goes into cyber space, can be renamed to it's original and all is O.K. again. The actual View is still there and assigned to the toolpaths although it will make the associated tool paths dirty and require regen.