Funuc Data Server & WinXP Sp2 Set Up

[Pat-TGM]

Good morning,

 

We need some help How to set up Funuc Data server and WinXp Sp2.

I tried to search the forum, but no luck

 

We got new 4-axis horizontal Makino A88e with dataserver.

The manual show how to set up with WinNT as below

 

Nc machine:

 

 

Host Computer:

 

 

We used WinXP Sp2 instead of WinNT as per Manual.

 

The problem:

 

from nc machine we press soft key [HOST] the alarm come up " DISPLAY ERROR " .

 

I think that because WinXP Sp2 has Firewall protection, so I turn it off, but still don't work

 

Any body please can help me out

 

Thanks in advance

 

Paul-CNC

[Zoober]

Paul, we run Niigats's with the data server.

We uses Filezilla, an open source, free, FTP server to communicate to/from the niigatas. Set up the XP box as an FTP server using 'zilla server, setting the IP address and port 21, point the CNC to that ip address, user, password, etc... and good to go....

Take a look at the ftp server and then let me know if you need help setting up.

Fanuc's instructions are cryptic at best, but once you set one up, it's super easy.

 

oooops, forgot. make sure you set up 9 as the communications port (0 is rs-232) in settings, or it will NEVER work)

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

You have to give the machine a login DIR to go to on the file server. (ex. c:ncdata) As you have it set, it goes nowhere. Actually, in my experience the I/O channel should be 5 not 9. I don't even know what 9 is.

 

HTH

[Tom Dorgan from American Precision]

I/O Channel 9 is what works on my Fanuc 18i controls but you do need a Login DIR as James said. We use a shareware FTP Server that works great. EFTP client server can be downloaded from here

http://www.encrypted-ftp.com/

We have 3 machines setup to push & pull programs from various directories using this software.

EDIT: Just a note, those janglish Fanuc manuals seldom have all the info you need to make things work. The software they provided us as machine builders never did work properly so we figured this one out on our own.

[Zoober]

I/O 9 is for our eternet ports (host -> embed soft keys)in the Fanuc (also 18i). I did kinda blow past the login dir, but (and I tested this am) if you don't set one, our FTP allows login to the root of the FTP server. In our case, it's fanftp

Depending on the FTP server, you generally need to make sure username and pass are the same case (upper or lower) on the server and CNC, or you will not access.

 

Also, we set up 2 sub-dirs per machine that can be connected to using the connect keys at the control; one called M_in (for programs going into the machine) and one called M_out (for programs leaving machine) so that we know which ones have been run and/or edited at the machine. That makes it easy to segregate and backup the proven and optimzed programs from the unproven ones,

[Pat-TGM]

Good morning,

 

Zoober and Tommy: for now we dintn't have third party software set up, just WinXp Sp2 in host computer (my laptop for now before I hook up to main network)

 

Jame: I think you right we need login DIR set

 

The current set up for now:

 

Machine:

IP address: 192.168.0.1

Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

Port No = 21

I/O chanel = 5

Login DIR = none

 

Host computer WinXp Sp2 :

IP address: 192.168.0.101

Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

 

From Host computer we use DOS command and type:

ftp 192.168.0.1

Enter user name & password.

 

We had connection to the machine Data server HD-Dir

 

at ftp> promt. We use: PUT, GET, DIR ... They ere working fine.

 

but from the NC machine We try connect to host computer by using the soft key in front of panel[HOST], we have alarm " DISPLAY ERROR"

 

In our case the folder (DIR) in host computer is C:NCFILE what should we put

 

Login DIR = /NCFILE or NCFILE or in full path C:NCFILE ... (in the machine we don't have character (backward key))

 

We tried Login DIR = /NCFILE (as per manual ) , but no luck

 

Thanks

 

Paul

[Zoober]

When you talk to CNC, CNC is acting as FTP server. To talk to PC, you need to have FTP server on PC. The third party software mentioned above will do that.

[3rdstring]

I'm not familiar with the fanuc dataserver, but to use the windows FTP Server you have to run IIS on the PC. Control panel - Add/Remove Progs - Windows components - IIS & there is a check for the FTP service.

 

HTH

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

I use WS_FTP, and it works like a charm. EVERY TIME. Matter of fact, I ususally don't even use GET and PUT at the machine. I just drag and drop stuff onto the Dataserver with it. Here's the procedure I use...

 

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Fanuc 16i Data Server Setup

 

SYMBOLS USED

In this Tech Tip, the following symbols are used to represent the Keys on the control panel to be used. Please note

the type brackets used for each type of Key. [ ] or { }

HARD KEYS are Keys that are found to the right of the control Screen and have printed names on them. I show

them as [xxxx] Where the xxxx is replaced with the printing on the Key

SOFT KEYS Are Keys that are found along the bottom of the screen, they are called Soft Keys because

there function will change depending on the mode and screen displayed. I show them as {xxxx} where

the xxxx is replaced with what the Key is labeled on the screen. The {>} key is the right most soft key and

changes what is the displayed on the soft keys

NOTES:

1. Turning on PWE

A. Set Mode Selector switch to MDI

B. Set Data Edit Key Switch to Data Write

C. Press [OFFSET SETTING] Hard Key

D. Press {SETTING} Soft Key Cursor should be on PWE

E. Press [1] [iNPUT]

F. Control gives alarm and PWE now on

2. Changing the I/O port

A. Set Mode Selector switch to MDI

B. Set Data Edit Key Switch to Data Write

C. Press [OFFSET SETTING] Hard Key

D. Press [!] Cursor down to move cursor to I/O

E. Press [0] = HSSB (cop 7)

[1] = RS232C serial port 1 (jd36a)

[2] = RS232C serial port 2 (jd36a)

[3] = Remote buffer interface (RS232C)(jd28a)

[4] = Flash memory, sdram card in the Card slot at the left side of CRT

[5] = Data server

F. Press [iNPUT]

With a Fanuc 8 Meg Flash Memory Data Server and Ethernet System installed, you have four memory Locations

to store Micrograms

A. The Standard Control Memory

B. The Data Server Flash Memory

C. A Directory on a PC’s Hard Drive over the Ethernet cable

D. Memory Card Loaded in to a slot Left side the CRT Panel

You can transfer NC Programs directly between any two locations

You can run NC Programs form any location directly A, B, C or D, or as a SUB Program from A, B or C

To do any of the above you first must set up the Data Server. And RS-232

By setting the Port #, IP Address. And User Name.

Similar to RS-232 settings, the values are not important as long as they Match.

 

STEPS IN SETTING UP THE DATA SERVER NETWORK

1. Setup Network on your PC

A. (Install PC network card if required using instructions that came with the network card)

2. Set up the PC’s Network IP address (windows 95 & 98)

NOTE: THIS REQUIRES The original Windows CD or the Cab Files on Your Hard Drive

IP ADDRESS NOTES: The IP address format is xxx.xxx.xxx.yyyy. Where xxx = your network address

and will nominally be the same on all computers on the network. The yyy is the unique to one computer of

device. CAUTION: If you have a large network system installed on your Computer.

Please Check with Your network administrator for the correct IP ADDRESS

A. Click on (Start)

B. Click on (SETTINGS)

C. Click on (CONTROL PANEL)

D. Click on (NETWORK)

E. Check in the list that appears for TCP/IP for you network card, if it exists Go to step L.

F. Click on (ADD)

G. Click on (PROTOCOL)

H. Click on (ADD)

I. Click on (MICROSOFT)

J. Click on (TCP/IP)

K. Click on (OK)

L. Locate and click on TCP/IP to Hi-Light it.

M. Click on (PROPERTIES)

N. Click on (SPECIFY IP ADDRESS) if not already

O. If the IP address already has a value Write it down you will need it for the machine

P. If not, Enter your own IP address, Example 1.1.1.1 will work. (See Caution in note above)

Q. IN sub Mask Enter 255.255.255.0

R. Click on (OK)

S. Click on (OK)

T. You will be asked to put in the original windows disk then Follow the prompts from there on.

 

3. Set up Ethernet parameters in the Fanuc 16i control

A. Turn on PWE (See page 2)

B. Set I/O to 5 (See page 2)

C. Press the [sYSTEM] Hard Key

D. Press {>} Soft Key about six (6) times until you see the {ETHPRM} Soft Key

E. Press {ETHPRM} Soft Key

F. NOTE top of screen shows page 1/5 Check MAC Address is present if not call Machine Tool Builder

G. Enter IP Address must be the same as PC’s but last number Must be unique to the network,

This the machine address (Example 1.1.1.2)

H. Set Subnet mask to 255.255.255.0

I Push Page down to go to page 2/5

J Enter 21 in the port number

K Set IP Address to equal the IP address of the PC you set in step 2P on page 3 Example (1.1.1.1)

L In USER NAME ( Required ) Enter a user name

M In PASSWORD ( Not Required ) (If you Enter a password write it down so don’t forget it)

N In LOGIN DIR ( Required ) Enter the complete path and name of the directory on the PC

Where your Files are stored, Example (/dataserv)

O. On page 3 & 4 You can set up other locations on the network you must keep port #21

If you put in different a IP address, or login directory’s. You will be able to change

the connect point at any time with out turning PWE on. (See 3.1. Below)

P. Go to Page 5/5

Q. Enter a user name

R. Enter a directory name (this will create a directory on the data server to save files to)

S. Turn OFF PWE (See page 2)

3.1 To Change the network connection point

A. Press [PROGRAM] Hard Key

B Press the {>} Soft Key two (2) times until {HD-DIR} {HOST} {CONECT} shows on the Soft Keys

C. Press the {CONECT} Soft Key this will display a list of the three connect points

D. Press the desired Soft Key {CON1} {CON2} {CON3} note the cursor shows the active setting

 

4. Install and set up FTP Software

A. Any FTP Software should work. If you need a FTP Program, there are several available as free-ware or shareware on the internet.

B. If you get the program from your Machine Tool Builder, it should be the self-extracting Zip file (FTPSETUP.EXE)

C. Run Windows Explorer

D. Make a directory on your Hard Drive called WFTPD

E. Copy the file (FTPSETUP.EXE) to the WFTPD Directory

F. Run Program FTPSETUP.EXE this will unzip all the files into the directory

G. Change explorer to a smaller window

H. Right click on the Red Icon for WFTPD and drag it to your desktop. Then let up on mouse and

when asked click on “Create Shortcut Here”

I From your desktop double click on the WFTPD icon to run the Program.

J You can then minimize the Program if you wish.

K. Your Computer is now ready to upload or download from the machine over your network.

5. Create a directory on the PC Hard Drive where you wish to store the NC Programs.

This must be the same name in both your Hard Drive and the control (Example dataserv)

A Make a directory if necessary on your hard drive where you want to store your NC Programs.

6. NOTES:

A. Cable must be CAT-5 or better

B. Use a Straight Through cable for Machine to Network Hub

Use a Crossed cable for machine direct to a PC.

C. The Data Server has two modes

C1. Storage = Run or transfer Programs from the Data Servers Flash memory.

C2. FTP = Run or transfer Programs from a PC’s Hard Drive over the Ethernet cable

C3. Note: You can upload and download between the Data Server and PC’s Hard Drive in either mode

D. To Change Modes

D1. Press [sYSTEM]

D2. Press {>} Soft Key Three (3) times until {DS-MTN} shows on the Soft Keys.

D3. Press {DS-MTN}

D4. Press {OPRT}

D5. Press {FTP} {EXEC} or {STAGE} {EXEC}

 

GENERAL OPERATION

The Following is only for quick reference. For complete Operating Information please refer to.

FANUC Operator’s Manual ( FANUC ETHERNET BOARD, DATA SERVER BOARD # B-63354EN )

NOTE: For this KEC the terms Upload & Download, refer to, to and from the Data server memory

Upload {PUT} means to send a file (out) of the Data Server memory

Download {GET} means to bring a file (in) to the Data Server memory

{GET}

1. Download from a PC’s Hard Drive to the Data Server Flash Memory over the network cable

A. Press [PROGRAM] Hard Key

B Press the {>} Soft Key two (2) times until {HD-DIR} {HOST} {CONECT} shows on the Soft Keys

C. Press the {HOST} Soft Key this will display a list of the Programs in the directory on the PC’s

Hard drive that is set up in the parameters (See #5 on page 5 )

D. Press the {OPRT} Soft Key

E. Press the {>} one (1) time until {GET} shows on the Soft Keys

F. Key in the File Number or File Name

G. Press the {GET} Soft Key

H. Press the {EXEC} Soft Key

I. GET will flash in the lower right corner of the display during the File transfer.

J. COMPLETE will flash in lower left corner of the display when file transfer is completed

NOTE: An alarm will be given if a file of the same name is in the server flash memory

 

{PUT}

2. Upload from the Data Server Flash Memory to a PC’s Hard Drive over the network cable

A. Press [Program] Hard Key

B. Press the {>} Soft Key two (2) times until {HD-DIR} {HOST} {CONECT} shows on the Soft Keys

C. Press the {HD-DIR} Soft Key this will display a list of the Programs in the Data Server Flash Memory

D. Press the {OPRT} Soft Key

E. Press the {>} Soft Key one (1) time until {PUT} shows on the Soft Keys

F. Key in the File Number or File Name

G. Press the {PUT} Soft Key

H. Press the {EXEC} Soft Key

I. PUT will flash in the lower right corner of the display during the File transfer.

J. COMPLETE will flash in lower left corner of the display when file transfer is completed

NOTE: An alarm will be given if a file of the same name is in the server flash memory

3. To delete a file on the PC’s Hard Drive

A. Press [Program] Hard Key

B. Press the {>} Soft Key two (2) times until {HD-DIR} {HOST} {CONECT} shows on the Soft Keys.

C. Press the {HOST} Soft Key to display a list of the Programs in the directory on the PC’s H.D.

OR

Press the {HD-DIR} Soft Key to display a list of the Programs in the data server Flash memory

D Key in the Program Name or File Number

E. Press the {F-DEL} Soft Key

F. Press the (EXEC} Soft Key

 

NOTES:

In this KEC the terms Read & Punch, refer to, to and from the Standard NC Program memory

Read : Means to receive a file from the Data Server memory (Storage) or PC’s Hard Drive. (FTP)

Punch : Means to send a file to the Data Server memory (Storage) or PC’s Hard Drive (FTP)

Data Server Modes

Storage = Read & punch to and from the Data Server Flash memory

FTP = Read & Punch to and from a PC’s Hard Drive

{READ}

4. Receive a file in the Standard Program Memory Area from the Data Server Flash Memory or PC

A. Set the Data Server mode to Storage or FTP (see #6 Page 5)

B. Press [PROGRAM] Hard Key

C. Press {PROGRAM} Soft Key

D. Press the {OPRT} Soft Key

E. Press the {>} Soft Key one (1) time until {READ} shows on the Soft Keys

F. Press the {READ} Soft Key

G. Key in the Program Number (Example O1234)

H. Press the {EXEC} Soft Key

{PUNCH}

5. Send a file from the Standard Program Memory Area to the Data Server Flash memory or PC

A. Set the Data Server mode to Storage or FTP (see #6 Page 5)

B. Press [PROGRAM] Hard Key

C Press {PROGRAM} Soft Key

D. Press the {OPRT} Soft Key

E. Press the {>} Soft Key one (1) time until {PUNCH} shows on the Soft Keys

F. Press the {PUNCH} Soft Key

G Key in the Program Number (Example O1234)

H. Press the {EXEC} Soft Key

 

DNC DIRECT IN FTP MODE

1. Run Programs DIRECT from the A PC’s Hard Drive In Tape mode

A. Set the Data Server mode to FTP (See #6 Page 5)

B. Set Mode selector to TAPE

C. Press [Program] Hard Key

D Press the {>} Soft Key two (2) times until {HD-DIR} {HOST} {CONECT} shows on the Soft Keys

E. Press the {HOST} Soft Key this will display a list of the Program’s in the directory on the PC’s

Hard drive that is set up in the parameters (See #5 on page 5 )

F. Press the {OPRT} Soft Key

G. Press the {DNC-ST} Soft Key

H. Key in the Program Number

I. Press {EXEC} Soft Key (This will cause the Program number to be displayed at the top of the

screen as DNC FILE NAME XXXX where the XXXX = the file name to be run )

J. Press [Cycle Start] to run the selected Program

DNC AS A SUB IN FTP MODE

2. Run Programs from the A PC’s Hard Drive as a sub Program with M198

A. Set the Data Server mode to FTP (See #6 Page 5)

B. You can call any NC Program that is stored in the directory on a PC’s Hard Drive

C. Check that the proper directory set up in the ETHPRM setting screen (See #3 line N Page 4)

D In your main Program you call any NC Program as a sub Program with the special M198

Command The format is the same as the standard M98 Macro call. M198 Pxxxx .The xxxx

is the four (4) digits Number following the O of the Program Number

E. Note: You can still call a sub Program from the standard memory with the standard M98

 

DNC DIRECT IN STORAGE MODE

3. Run Programs direct from the DATA SERVER FLASH MEMORY In Tape mode

A. Set the Data Server mode to STORAGE (See #6 Page 5)

B. Set Mode Selector to TAPE

C. Press [PROGRAM] Hard Key

D. Press the {>} Soft Key two (2) times until {HD-DIR} {HOST} {CONECT} shows on the Soft Keys

E. Press the {HD-DIR} Soft Key this will display a list of the Programs on the Data Sever

F. Press the {OPRT} Soft Key until {DNC-ST} shows on the Soft Keys.

G. Press the {DNC-ST} Soft Key.

H. Key in the Program number.

I. Press {EXEC} Soft Key (This will cause the Program Number to be displayed at the top of the

screen as DNC FILE NAME XXXX where the XXXX = the file name to be run )

J. Press Cycle start to run the selected program.

DNC AS SUB IN STORAGE MODE

4. Run Programs stored on the Data Server Flash Memory as a sub Program with M198

A. Set the Data Server mode to Storage (See #6 Page 5)

B. You can call any Program that is stored in the Data Server Flash Memory

C In your Program you call any Program as a sub Program with the special M198 command

The format is the same as the standard M98 Macro call. M198 Pxxxx .The xxxx is the four

digit Number following the O of the Program Number

D. Note: You can still call a sub Program from the standard memory with the standard M98

The above is only for quick reference. For complete Operating Information please see the

FANUC Operator’s Manual (FANUC ETHERNET BOARD, DATA SERVER BOARD # B-63354EN)

 

DNC DIRECT FROM MEMORY CARD

5.2 DNC--Running a programs DIRECT from the MEMORY CARD

(1) Check Parameter 138 bit 7 =1

(2) Check that the I/O is set to 4 (See 2 on page 2)

(3) Set Mode Switch to TAPE

(4) Press {>} Soft Key 2 times to display {DNC-CD} Soft Key

(5) Press {DNC-CD} Soft Key this will display the directory of the Memory Card

(6) Press [!] Page down key if your file is not showing

(7) Key in the File No, Not the Program number

(8) Press the {DNC-CD} Soft Key

(9) Press the [Cycle Start] Hard Key Program will display in screen and run

NOTE: The soft key {DNC-CD} will only show if parameter 178.7 is 1 and the mode switch

is in MEMORY or TAPE position

DNC AS A SUM FROM MEMORY CARD

5.2 DNC— Run Programs stored on the MEMORY CARD as a SUB PROGRAM with M198

(1) Check Parameter 138 bit 7 =1

(2) Check Parameter 3404 bit 2 If set to 1 the P Address in M198 will Indicate A Program number

If set to 0 the P Address in M198 will Indicate A File number

(3) Check that the I/O is set to 4 (See 2 on page 2)

(4) In the main Program, use M198 to call a sub program from the Memory card

(5) Main Program Example

O1234

M198 PXXXX (XXXX= Program name or file number depending on setting of parameter 3404

M30

 

INPUT/OUTPUT USING FANUC 16I MEMORY CARD

6.1 DISPLAYING MEMORY CARD DIRECTORY

(1) Place machines rotary switch to EDIT mode

(2) Edit Key must be turned to Write

(3) Insert Memory Card

(4) Press [PROG] hard key

(5) Press {>} soft key

(6) Press {CARD} soft key (this will display the M-Card Directory)

6.2 DOWN LOADING NC PROGRAM FROM MEMORY-CARD TO MACHINE

(1) Check that the I/O is set to 4 (See 2 on page 2)

(2) Go To, the M-Card directory (See 6.1 Above)

(3) Press {OPRT} soft key

(4) Press {N-READ} soft key

(5) Type name of the file on the M-CARD you wish to down load to the machine

Then press {F-NAME} soft key

(6) Type the program # you want the program to be called in the machine

You must follow standard Fanuc program numbering system

Example: if you want the program to be called 01234

Type “1234” then press {O-SET} soft key. Note : do not put an O or an error will occur.

(7) Press {EXEC} soft key

Your program from the M-CARD should be loaded in the machine.

Note: step (6) is not necessary

(A) If the file on the M-CARD has O#’s already, and you wish to use this number

(

If the file contains multiple programs the machine will default

 

6.3 UP LOADING NC PROGRAM FROM MACHINE TO MEMORY-CARD

(1) Check that the I/O is set to 4 (See 2 on page 2)

(2) Go To, the M-Card directory (See 6.1 Above)

(3) Press {OPRT} soft key

(4) Press {PUNCH} soft key

(5) Type a name for the file you wish to save to the M-CARD

Examples: “Ncprog.nc” or “Ncprog.txt” or “Ncprog” or “1234”

Then press {F-NAME} soft key

(6) Type the program number of the program you want loaded on the M-CARD

Example: if you want to save program # O1234 from the machine to the M-CARD

Type only “1234” note: do not put an O or an error will occur.

Note : Multiple programs can be saved as one file on the M-Card by Expressing a range of program

#’s Example : if you want to D/L programs O0055 threw O1234 Type “55,1234”

(7) Press {O-SET} soft key

(8) Press {EXEC} soft key Program should be saved on the M-Card

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Sorry for the length...

[Zoober]

That (IIS) can be done, But I've found that the open source FTP servers are such an easy thing to set-up, that's the way we did it. Not saying that it is the only way, just the way we chose to do it. We also find that the 'Zilla server eats way fewer resources, because it's only a FTP server, not a web server and such.

[Pat-TGM]

Hi Zoober and Chuck,

 

Right now I perfer NOT to use third party softwares if possible. The rules of the company is Any softwares MUST BE approved and tested by the IT personel before using them in the shop or network, Maybe I have to wait for next year to be approved.

 

So, I am going to try Windows FTP option first

 

Thanks