WCS

[Wise-ACR]

I two vices on my machine G54 and G55. I copied my original toolpath (G54)Then went into view manager and copied the top view and set my work offset to 1 and changed the tool plane. But the toolpath is still backplotting in my original G54-first vice. I have looked at the tutorials and I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong.

[3R!< W3NG3R]

backplot will always be referenced to origin, even if you change the machine co-ordinates.If your gode is good then it is working like it should. MC cannot know how you set your G54,G55 ect.. on the machine so it can't show it in backplot.

[Wise-ACR]

Thanks Eric,what about verify? It still does not show the tool on the second vice G55.

[Guest]

You are getting this because the is no distance set to where your G55 will be.

 

When usings xform >> translate if you set a distance to the second vise you'll see it verify in that position.

[Wise-ACR]

Thank"s John, what I did was copy my original toolpaths and then set my WCS to the second vice.

 

Are you saying I should use Xform instead if I want to see it in Verify?

[Guest]

If only for verify yes, but if you leave that way, then you'll need to set your 2nd vise at that position.

 

You can also use planes or secondary WCS to do it, couple of ways really

[3R!< W3NG3R]

That seems a bit risky to me. I verify one offset at a time. If you translate just for verify, you have to make sure you do not post those toolpaths.

[Troy Gossett Indepak Inc.]

If the toolpaths are the same both vises why do you need to backplot the second vise? Proof the paths make the copies and set the new WCS to G55 and post.

The whole point of using G55 is so you don't have to do this. You might as well program it twice if you want to see how the same code looks at second vise.

[Wise-ACR]

They are different vices. I am not sure I agree with you regarding backplot or verify. These are very expensive parts we are re-working. I allways(when I can)verify my programs-what would happen if I picked the wrong origin etc.

[Rick Henrickson 65]

proove out the first then transalate your tool path it is the exact same as the first.

[Troy Gossett Indepak Inc.]

acr1234

 

If the vises are diff even the height etc. But the program is the same it is simple copy the toolpath that you want for G55 and on the parameters>planes dialog change the offset #. You will get the same code but with G55 instead of G54 the rest is done by setting the offsets correctly at the machine. Or if you are using one tool or don't mind the extra tool changes you can copy all Toolpaths and change common parameteters for the second group. I agree with you that changing the origin could be bad that is why you just change the offset.

[kunfuzed]

I think he should still be able to do what he wants. What if the G55 distance is something that is part of the fixture, not two vises?

 

acr, could you put the file on the ftp. I think you should be able to do what you want. I made two rectangles and made to different tplanes then countoured them one with 54 other with 55 and it seemed to do what you what. Your not talking about verify are you? In that case I think you would have to verify them individually, and set stock for each one.

 

EDIT: Translate or tplane, whichever - if I don't see my g55 being backplotted in the right place, that tells me that I must have down something wrong, and it probably won't post out a work offset change.

[Tom Brown from Stork Inc.]

If you use your solid to verify with, you can also create a copy of your solid at the given translation distance, and add a larger solid body under both solids connecting them. But in this case you would have had to created duplicate sets of tool geometry also at the same distance. Inorder to verify properly.

[cadcam]

Jerry if you used the WCS to locate the other part as your G55 is will backplot in the both locations correctly.

 

As for Varify like waht was stated it does not no the distance just a off set or I call them a diffrent datum.So if your Stock does not cover both locations then it will show in the same place.

[Wise-ACR]

I am trying to upload the file but the site is asking me for a user name and password??

[3rdstring]

mastercam

swiss

 

HTH

[kunfuzed]

How's the upload going?

[Tinhman]

I am with casecadeclimbr

 

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proove out the first then transalate your tool path it is the exact same as the first.

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[kunfuzed]

I'm with cascadeclimber on the translating option, if it is the same toolpath. But either way, I believe he should be able to visually see his G55 going to the right place, whether he translated it or set up a new Tplane. I don't just want to blindly assume I translated it right.