Agie Wire HELP

[JJ@SR]

I've done several tests and already have the Agie techs in the loop. The machine is a Agie Excellence 2F. My problem is that I need to burn a taper in a part that starts at 0 degrees and burns to a max of 8 degrees while in the part. When the heads transition from the main wire guides to the toriods, there is a joggle on the profile. The transition is not smooth. Somewhere around the 3 degree mark there is the joggle. I've done all the alignments per Agie. And we have ruled out any MC errors.

 

Has anyone else had this problem.

 

Thanks for any input.

 

JJ

[Guest]

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And we have ruled out any MC errors.

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4 axis or taper. whats a joggle btw.

[JJ@SR]

What I'm calling a Joggle is an In & Out mark on the profile, that is not programmed.

 

I'm using Direct 4 Axis, Sync: branch.

 

I'll send a pic, if I can figure out how.

 

JJ

[Guest]

are you leading straight in.send me pic.

[Guest]

i am using x2 mr1

[JJ@SR]

Del, check your email. Using X2 MR2.

 

JJ

[Guest]

the slot is straight but goes from 0 deg taper to 8 degrees taper from uv to xy over the length of the slot is that correct.

[JJ@SR]

That's right, the "joggle" is between the 0 and 8 degree positions. Just seeing if anyone else has had a similar problem.

[Guest]

i'm thinking which is dangerous.

[Guest]

jj, have you tried deleting the branch lines and syncing by entity

[JJ@SR]

I just tryed re-syncing by entity and it backploted fine. I'll try and burn one tomorrow. Time for me to checkout.

 

Thanks del.

[ToolMan184]

I like to sync by entity if all possible. The branches will get ya in trouble if your not very very careful.

[Jerry_P]

Yes same here I like to sync by entity to. The branch can get you in trouble if you are not careful. Some times the machine will try to reapply cutter comp. in the middle on the line right where your branch is that is what might be causing your "joggle."

[Guest]

jj, wow are you using .001 wire diameter.

[Kannon]

I believe with that model it will go down to .0008

[Guest]

that has got to be some slow burning there.

[Kannon]

and it auto threads it..

[Guest]

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and it auto threads it..

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how can you tell

[JJ@SR]

Del, the burn time for the part I showed you was 10 min. in 1/8" SS. There was already a start hole, so no nocore and the slot was a full width cut. As for seeing 30um wire, it looks like spider web, you have to hold your mouth just right. And yes, it does auto thread.

[Guest]

jj, i liked the 1 and 2 on your web site. i made one of them also. also made the 3 and 8 with the earnhardt logo for the nascar fans here.hardest part is getting them to release from the block of steel.looks like you guys do some very nice work.

[JJ@SR]

I tryed reposting the program with Sync: entity. The "joggle" is worse looking. The Agie guys still haven't replyed on the problem. Any more idea's???

[Guest]

program looks fine though? wire isn't rubbing flush cups?not likely with .001 wire.have you tried a different position on the table or change axis feed direction.maybe try having wire set up full angle before entering part and burn straight in?

[JJ@SR]

I've told Agie I thought it was a problem with the transition from the main guides to the secondary guides (they come into play after 2.1 degrees). Agie still hasn't gotten back with me to conferm this.

 

I"m just trying to find out if I'm doing something wrong in MC. I can't have the wire at full angle before entering the part, I have to transition while in the part, it's designed that way.

[Guest]

i don't think you are doing anything wrong.sounds like the wire machine to me.that is so minute that it looks bad since that slot is just .0017 wide.i would try wiring it in a different direction and see if it still does it.

[Jerry_P]

LOL I was just thinking, Agie is Charmilles know that is why you haven't heard from them. Charmilles service is bad