Anybody buying non-Sandvik Capto tools?

[chris m]

OK, guys; anybody buying Capto tools that are made by someone other than Sandvik? All of our lathes are Capto, and the system works great, but I am tired of my eyes bugging out when I get a quote from them. I have a quote coming from the Seco guys, but I don't know who else (reputable) is in the Capto business.

 

Any help is much appreciated.

 

C

[robk]

The only other company that we get capto from is Big Kaiser. Very good quality, but I don't know if it is less expensive then Sandvik. BIG have some cool cartridges that Sandvik doesn't even offer.

I am interested as well how other manufacturers compare.

[Goldorak]

By personal experience, Sandvik VS SECO, i will stay with sanvik, even if they cost the double .

 

check the CAMFIX system from Iscar , it seems compatible with Capto

[GoetzInd]

We bought a descent amount of stuff from Canela tools. Significantly cheaper. Quality seems good. Limited to mostly turning stuff though. Here's the capto catalog :

 

http://www.canelacorp.com/pdf/psc_2011.pdf

 

Our distributor is Cutting Tool Supply. Ask for Pat

http://cutting-tool-supply.com/

 

 

Mike

[GoetzInd]

+1 On Big Kaiser. Highest quality IMO. I know Chris Kaiser personally. He is a great guy who genuinely takes pride in the quality of their products.

 

Mike

[chris m]

Just got my Seco quote and it was more money than Sandvik, which I find pretty hilarious. Rob, I don't think Kaiser makes turning tools; Martin, I'll check into Iscar.

[AshM]

By personal experience, Sandvik VS SECO, i will stay with sanvik, even if they cost the double .

 

check the CAMFIX system from Iscar , it seems compatible with Capto

 

I don't use the capto hardware, so I can't comment on quality, but I recently got sent a link to an article saying that SECO has been bought out by Sandvik... if this is true perhaps the SECO stuff will improve... just a thought.

[chris m]

OK, so Seco is more money than Sandvik, Iscar doesn't make Capto boring bars, Canela doesn't make any CCMT boring bars; WTF? I got a call from the Sandvik Regional Sales Manager yesterday saying "I hear you have some concerns about pricing on our Capto tools," to which I replied "I am doing everything in my power to buy Capto toolholding from someone other than you because your pricing is insane." He said "I appreciate your frankness; I'll see if there's anything we can do..."

 

The search continues

 

C

[High Performance]

OK, so Seco is more money than Sandvik, Iscar doesn't make Capto boring bars, Canela doesn't make any CCMT boring bars; WTF? I got a call from the Sandvik Regional Sales Manager yesterday saying "I hear you have some concerns about pricing on our Capto tools," to which I replied "I am doing everything in my power to buy Capto toolholding from someone other than you because your pricing is insane." He said "I appreciate your frankness; I'll see if there's anything we can do..."

 

The search continues

 

C

 

You could try walter valenite. I am not aware of the price or quality, however I am pretty sure they also make capto tools

[Chris Rizzo]

I believe I saw recently mitsubishi had a capto-like system. ? Prolly be half of sandvik.

[chris m]

Thanks, guys, I'll check both of those options

 

C

[chris m]

Interesting that MSC came in $35/tool cheaper on Seco than the Seco 'distributor'...hmmm.....?

[#Rekd™]

Mitsubishi is the cheapest around for tooling (I have found).

[Watcher]

Haimer?

[OlderthanDirt]

You could try walter valenite. I am not aware of the price or quality, however I am pretty sure they also make capto tools

Walter Valenite is owned by Sandvik....

[Kevangel]

Interesting that MSC came in $35/tool cheaper on Seco than the Seco 'distributor'...hmmm.....?

 

You might ask in the office about up to 40 percent off sale mon/tues only from MSC..I am buying some stuff....I wait for sales faxes if I can..I am sorta a poor shop and gotta stretch $$

 

http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Indexable-Cutting-Tools/Indexable-Modular-Systems/Modular-Accessories-Parts/Capto-Tool-Holders/_/N-77cwu

[Mick]

I don't use the capto hardware, so I can't comment on quality, but I recently got sent a link to an article saying that SECO has been bought out by Sandvik... if this is true perhaps the SECO stuff will improve... just a thought.

 

Actually, SECO has been owned by Sandvik for quite some time. That happened many years ago

 

I used to work for Sandvik as a Technical Representative (quite a few years ago I might add )

[AshM]

Actually, SECO has been owned by Sandvik for quite some time. That happened many years ago

 

I used to work for Sandvik as a Technical Representative (quite a few years ago I might add )

 

I stand corrected....

[chris m]

OK, so I got my Seco boring bars (which, not surprisingly, look just like Sandvik boring bars with different laser marking and a white coupling protector) and they look nice; saved $150 on the three tools over Sandvik, but I am going to keep searching for better deals.

 

C