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God forbid a revision the morning after

Jay, quote: Keith, you bring up the machining of STL as you feel that mastercam does not do well with STL. do you feel this is a large issue? Actually it is not STL machining that I was referencing as much as progressive stock models creation and usage for remachine operations. Yes this is an area I feel that Mastercam is weak in. Just this last week I was doing just as described and the operation kept losing the assocative CAD stock model. The generated stock model was still where it always had been. Try it in X3, create a HST roughing operation, verify it, create a new STL file from that now verified model, copy the roughing operation changing it to a remachining operation, change the cutter, parameters and finally go to drive surfaces and select the STL CAD file you created. Process and verify that and repeat the rest for a second Remachine operation....and some where after that your first Remachine op will go dirty....on closer inspection of the selected geometery in the op you will find that the original CAD file is now missing from selection. Now this is not a really that big of a deal as I can reselect the STL, the point is a one of stability and that this is just one more thing that doesn't work the way it should on top of having to re-process the path. I just don't have these kind of issues with other software/s that I use, they are faster at processing, more stable, better work flow....I won't go on. quote: I know that all have used the one file, it was just a base of one file that all share to see how the computers or as show here hardware doe's make a difference. I am sure that there are more files besides the one that came as a sample. but does this really set much of a difference on how the hardware with compare to other No that's not what I'm am say at all I'm just saying maybe its time to throw in some other variables not just for the sake of processing speed but to run the software thru alternate senarios. Think of it as the difference between a drag race (similar to what is being done in the benchmark today) and the Indy or Grand Prix (Which dictates that is not just about speed, not saying that speed doesn't count)

NielJ, Are you ready to come clean?

NeilJ, I've never tried to hide anything, as I see no value in it. I'm sure in part why I was removed to begin with. I don't like the fact that most anyone can say anything on a forum or the like without association to themselves. My new login was something off the top of my head. I would really like the powers that be to re-instate my past profile and to take my email address off of the black list...I'm sure whom ever made that decision will end up reading this. NeilJ, quote: In addition, this forum is a heck of a lot better than say CNC Advertising Zone where all that really counts there is advertising revenue for the owner who pretends that his bogus forums are something they aren’t. I do agree with you. I don't like the Zone, I don't like the idea of such forums. Its a cheap, un-proffesional was of hosting a forum no matter how helpful it may be to its members. I would always opted for prescribed content as opposed to unsolicitaed content. How can you tell I'm not much for commercials....I avoid them at all cost. The emastercam forum speaks volumes for the people on it and their respective industries. No smoke blown here. The In-House crew I have a lot of respect for in particular Ed House and I am not attempting th tarnish that. In the End I guess I must Blog on!

Point taken. Removed I was. Because I am now representing hyperMILL and HSMWorks. Note I am still a user of Mastercam as a contractor (not my seat, the companies that I do work for). Keith @ Solid Code Solutions

quote: Yes on MC sir. Jay, You say that so proud. Is that the best time to date? Is there any evidence that Mastercam will incorporate multi-core processing to further enhance these results. Now that these times have been achieved I'm wondering if anyone is open to trying it on a real world file that will separate the men from the boys. This is run software in the real world, not just by manipulating the tolerance but by trying to verify and create STL to use as CAD files fo consecutive toolpaths, remachine operations and the like. Validation on anything engineered in this world is to establish its weakest areas and vulnerabilities.

quote: I too am disappointed in X3 but I won't air my complaints on public forum provided by a Mastercam reseller. gcode, As far as I am concerned comments, opinions and criticisms can be both helpful and constructive. Do you really want your voice to be heard? If In-House or CNC software really would like to limit poster on the forum or at least what is seen by potential customers they would close the forum to registered Mastercam users. Problem one is there goes 3/4 of the forum population. Problem two it could be misconstrued that they have something to hide. Instead it is much easier to edit content/users out that is not in their best interest and to allow all pirated users to participate as they are so numerous and still contribute in a positive way to further sales. This is not an impartial forum. it is a well constructed sales and support tool that In-House Solutions in their great wisdom created to assist them in supporting their present and future customers. It has grown and developed its own personality since. To air issues, problems, or questions regarding the development and repair of the software regardless of what is said as long as it is constructive should always be a loud. Not to just the VAR. I'm sure that your VAR appreciates it. I'm a big fan regardless of product or services, is that everything must first stand on its own two feet against the competition. That is only fair. Too much in the world today doesn't, instead it is over marketed to in essence pull the wool over the consumers/end users eyes. I'm going to really open myself up here but my way of thinking is that If I am wrong I want to know so that I can correct my line of thinking or how I am approaching the challenges at hand.

Well put.

As I had stated.

On the one core?

Thanks for the advise and I could agree with you more regarding product support and the relationship devoloped with your support network. Thanks for the Blog Idea as I really don't want to to that on this forum out of respect for other users and In-House Solutions.

Sweet

I have to be careful as Ive been banned from the forum for less. I make this reply brief and to the point. There is no one CAM system that will be right for everyone and application. What I have found in my search into CAM systems that a progressive sytem isn't as much to do with the software as it is into the orginization, development and people behind the software. Mastercam has proven itself over the years to be on the progressive side of the line not as much for its development but by the people that use it. The people theat use software typically drive its development. Progressive industries, progressive solutions, progressive peolple. WE are living in a intresting time that is continually challenging how we view, process and act as a result. CNC Software doesn't seem equipped to keep up. Just because Mastercam has been around for as long as it has and has offered solutions to manufacturing problems doesn't mean that it will continue to offer the better way. At times a designer / programmer needs to step back and a fresh look at the job in front of him and decide whether it is best to carry one with the legacy work that has developed a life of it's own or to start fresh with new tools that are more effiecient and that will foster a new way of working. Software for all its 0's and 1's is a tool and will always be progression. Mastercam and alot of it's primary feature, tools and ways of doing things have been around for along time. This in some cases can be good even with a large user base...in the beginning not much to choose from...used it in school... The reality is that is not age of the software or how long the software has matured. It's not wine. The older some software/developers get the more locked in it is to repeat the same line of thinking and philosophies. Bound by its own framework. If we collectively were to develop CAM software today how would it be like and would we be bound by the same rules as a CAM software that maintains a legacy framework? BTW I'm not knew to the forum at all. I've recently removed for my views. I've never trashed on Mastercam nor will I, I just think that putting the blinders on and ignoring all else promotes complacence and missing out on the next best thing.

Jay, with what software? I hope you are not talking about Mastercam. Mastercam is not capable of processing on multiple cores.

Mastercam in Solidworks is not being released for 2.5D, just HST and some FBM initially. Can you elaborate on modality?

Keep looking as there are a lot of new feature now coming down the pipe. have you looked at hyperMILL?

NeilJ, In all honesty I really did not want to bag on CNC, I just don't think that they have their finger on the pulse. I have used Mastercam for years in a high end Toolroom. Mastercam has never been a shinning star here (we may be a bit snobbish), not to say that it hasn't gotten better in some areas. I have also works as a dealer/support person for the product knowing all the while there must be a better way....well there is for most people that are willing to open there eyes and see that Mastercam is a not even in the top ten anymore. It's a bitter pill to swallow for everyone that has invested money, time and effort into Mastercam as I have over the years. I disagree with anyone that says that they have invested too much into Mastercam to now switch. There can be a varying substantial ROI on switching to something that you are not continually fighting with. It is not as much a shift to another software as much as it is a shift in philosophies. Not all CAM software and their developer are created equal. as I have found. That is my personal and business experience.

quote: For 2D MasterCAM and EdgeCAM rules. For 3D PowerMILL, Tebis and hyperMILL are awsome. For 5X hyperMILL is the leader. Ditto quote: Except Tebis I've tried them all and they all have some very nice function's. The best overall system ( 2D to 5X ) is clearly hyperMILL, but also the most expensive. hyperMILL is not the most expensive in fact is competitive with Mastercam. The big difference is that you get a lot more value for the buck in hyperMILL. hyperMILL integrates seamlessly into ProE, Inventor, SolidWorks and Think Design. If you are a SolidWorks user HSMWorks is a strong system that is not burdened with the same processing issues that have plagued Mastercam. In fact both hyperMILL and HSMWorks utilise multi core and CPU processing as well as extended memory all the while allowing the programmer to continue working.

Hey can you process this file and another in this time or continue working on the design or continue creating other tool paths? People for a Better CAM

quote: Finding a bug in testing is only part of the process, This Highlight bug was caught, logged and somehow lost in our process. Unfortunately this happens sometimes. This is not the exception but the rule ant CNC Software. Didn't you know you are all just beta testers, that includes me. I've got a full time job and good honest money paid and continually paid for software in most case that is over prices, under developed, with a lot of emphasis put on marketing a product/features that are half baked and tend to stay. People For A Better CAM

quote: For the ease your looking for.. [Roll Eyes] you might need to upgrade to X3 [Cheers] More than likely another CAM integrated in SolidWorks...and don't tell me that Mastercam in SolidWorks is right around the corner. The reality is CNC software need to stop and focus on making their flagship product work properly and the better instead of screwing around with with an area that they should have addressed prior to the release of X. Sorry guys you dropped the ball along time ago and everyone watching you run trying to play catch-up! Other CAM packages have some of this nailed or at least are going down the right road. I didn't mean this as much as a dig but to real start to clear the air form all this marketing BS. Peolpe for a Better CAM!