1 hour ago, Aaron Eberhard said:

I think it depends on what you're doing...  I could see where some of these defects cause excessive time loss where it's worth skipping a release.

Sure, it's going to depend on everyone's situation and work load. I personally, skipped updating from 2019 all the way to 2022. The defects present kept me from using the latest versions. Finally, they got things sorted and I was able to move forward. Then you spend 6 months figuring out what was changed that you missed out on and what was added that you need to learn. 

I prefer to stay current, especially since my employer pays for maintenance every year. 

I was just trying to convey, that no software is perfect and most of the time, the issues are annoying and not a real big deal breaker. 

Area rest roughing will delete the appx start points on a file save. This will cause the tool paths to go dirty. Also, same tool path will not respect the silhouette boundary anymore for containment. You have to create wireframe and use that like in previous releases.

I reported the silhouette boundary when 2023 came out, but it hasn't been fixed through update 3.

I just recently found one where waterline doesn't retract to the top of a feature when arc filters is turned on. I reported that as well. 

The bugs, while annoying, aren't enough to keep me from staying current. I don't care if the issues are there, as long as I have a work around. It is what it is. Report it, hope they get fixed, and move on.

You could always just sketch a simple surface and use it as an avoidance . I like David's suggestion as well. Play with the linking until you get the tool path you want. Just wanted to throw out another suggestion.

Ron,

Sorry for your loss. You have my condolences as well.

Thanks to all. I am going to check them all out. I have never used the curvature command so it will be fun to use that and learn it. I will check out the Byte solution also. Thank you for the offer I may hit you up on that via PM.

Is there a way to click on two solid faces and see if they are parallel to one another? My parts have multiple faces at all different angles and it would be nice to know if they are at the same angle. For instance I create a plane off one face for milling, is the other face in the same plane, or do I need to create a new plane for that face as well?

Thanks in advance.

Fun example file. Thanks for sharing everyone. I learned some things playing along here.

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This is what I use and between the macro buttons on all of them, I have more than I need to do the job. I have a duplicate setup at both home and work so that I have continuity between both places. I find that I am pretty much crippled without them these days. 

One of the best things I have done is program the Enter button and Escape buttons onto my mouse. Now I can get in and out of ops without taking my hand off the mouse. I also have regen tool path and toggle tool path display on my mouse. Saves me a lot of wrist movement throughout the day.

27 minutes ago, JoshC said:

Thanks a bunch Corey, its good to hear from you and i hope you and your family are doing well, stay in touch!

I'm sure I will bug you about something off the wall sometime soon! All my best to you as well. Happy Holidays.

As always, thanks for going above and beyond. You sir, are awesome!

11 minutes ago, Colin Gilchrist said:

You must create your chain, with extra "broken endpoints", where you want to make the modifications manually. Chain the Contour path like normal, enter your operation data. Generate the path.

Then, expand the tree for the Operation, click on the "Chain/Geometry Manager". In the Chain Manager, Right-Click on the Chain you want to modify. You'll find "Change at Point" in this right-click menu...

Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I learned something new today. That makes it a good day.

41 minutes ago, Colin Gilchrist said:

To do this with finishing, I use "Change at Point" function, break the chain geometry before the corner, and use Change at Point to change the Feedrates on the chain itself. With 'Change at Point', this allows you to save those manual changes into the toolpath geometry, and then be able to make changes to the path, and still have the ability to regenerate your changes. (Still have to make the corner feed adjustments "manually" with Change at Point, if you want to change those sections.) This is a pain in some respects due to the manual intervention aspect, but allows you some serious control over the path results itself.

Pardon my ignorance, but where is "Change at Point" located? I see where this could be very powerful and wanted to play around with it, but can't seem to find it.

That fixed the issue for me. Thanks!

Hi David,

I tried to login and got an error as well. It says my email can't be found in the inhousesolutionscom.sharepoint.com directory.

I used the same email that is registered on this website.

Big Kaiser :https://bigdaishowa.com/en/products/tool-holders/basic-arbors/smart-damper-tool-milling

Seco: https://www.secotools.com/article/m_7272

I was told the Seco stuff is just Sandvik in another box fwiw.

For the record, I do not think Arch has any dampened milling tools. The only line I have came across that has anything like that is Sandvik. I will ask a couple of my vendors as they come in. The route you are going is probably the best alternative.

I use a 1.575 inserted Sandvik dampened mill sticking out 7.866 gauge length and have very good results. They are expensive, but for the products we make here they are a must.

You are really sticking out there for length to diameter ratio. Let us know how it works.

+1 For Sandvik's line of Silent tools. Both the boring bars and milling tools work well.

If you don't want to pay Sandvik money check out Arch out of Michigan (formerly Ultradex). They have a line as well.

https://www.archcuttingtools.com/category/boring/

24 minutes ago, lowcountrycamo said:

okay... where please?  thanks

I think this is it.

31 minutes ago, Hertz said:

Where is this update available?

Launch Cimco 2022....Top right corner, click on help. At the bottom of the drop down box it has " Download Latest Version". If it is not there, click setup/general and look for the check box that says "hide 'download latest version' Make sure that is unchecked and restart Cimco. It should then appear under the help drop down.

On 10/31/2022 at 6:28 AM, Hertz said:

Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue and if they know a fix. Not sure if it's related to my computer or Cimco Edit.

Recently installed 2022, and when opening cimco edit, sometimes the cursor is there and sometimes it's not. What I mean by this is the flashing cursor to show where you are editing. I can do the edit, but it's like as if the flashing cursor is invisible. 

Not sure if I'm explaining this proper but I hope it's clear enough. 

I have this issue off and on in Cimco 22. Build version is 22.01.30 It seems to happen intermitently and can be frustrating for sure. If you figure out a cause and solution, please post it up.

Thanks!

**Edit** Looks like the update is out. I downloaded it and am going to give it a spin. Hopefully it fixes it.

I should have worded it differently I guess. Use wear or control comp, it doesn't matter to ME. I see what you guys are saying as far as potential problems with control comp. I agree those things can happen. You guys provided solid examples of what could go wrong with control comp.

I have been out the job shop arena for about 12 years and everything I do now is wear. I have used both in the past and both will get the job done. The point of my post wasn't one is better than the other, rather that it needs to be used. 

For me, if I were starting in a job shop today, it wouldn't bother me to use either one. One thing is for sure, I would be using some form of cutter comp for critical features. I think it would all depend on the work being done, the skill set of the guy behind the controller and how apt things were to get screwed up. 

If I was working in a job shop, running a mill, there is no way I would want to work without cutter comp. Use control comp, or wear comp, it doesn't matter. Here is why I say that:

1) The posted code is easier to read. The dimensions on the print, match the program, and it's easier to track down any errors or typos. No need to do backward math to figure what is going on.

2) Control of critical sizes. If I need to make something bigger or smaller, I can make that change on the control, in mere seconds. No need to re-post, delete the old program and copy it back in. By the time you do those steps, I could have the feature finished.

3) Re-ground tooling. If you setup on the job in the future, and need to use a .725 endmill, instead of a .750 endmill, it's no big deal. Just type the comp in and go. 

This all seems to me, like it would make running the current job and in the future, the same job, easier. A guy can add a tooling list in the header of the program to document the tools used for future reference. 

To piggy back on this, I take the USB Hasp home. I remote in to my work computer and copy my files to my home PC. I then log off the work PC. Make my programs in Mastercam and do what I need to do on my home PC. When the job is done, I just remote back into my work PC and move the files back over. It's an extra step, but I don't have any lag issues and if Mastercam crashes I am not hosed.

That said, you need a home PC capable of running Mastercam, and you need to have it setup as a direct copy of your work PC. This includes post files, machine defs, etc. It can be cumbersome at first to get it all setup, but once it's done it's not a big deal.

I tried this in Mcam 2022 and was unable to get it to create more than one sub menu no matter what I did. I opened 2023 and it worked as expected. I then copied my .workspace file from the 23 folder into the 22 folder and it was actually backwards compatible! Therefore, I now have several sub menus and it cleaned up my RMB a ton. Thanks guys!

Interesting that this shows up today. We are talking about setting up some sort of server system here at work also. We have several vintage machines that we have to constantly load and delete programs in. This could save me some work in the future, if we find a viable solution. I would like to know what the best way to do this is.