FPT Synthesis tnc 430

[Guest]

I am looking for anyone that is familar with this

machine and controller

[mayday]

We have an area 140 with the 430 on it

just north of you near saginaw

[Guest]

hello MayDay,

are you running 5 axsis or 3 axis

[mayday]

3+2 I would call it. it has the A,B rings on the index head

[Guest]

Would you be able to help us with a post? We don't have anyone here knowledgable with this control and

are Mastercam dealer isn't able to help unless we have someone that unstands what the code needs to look like.

[mayday]

Todd, is your machine simular to ours? I'll help if I can, I have edited our post myself. its not perfect. we use label calls to do head indexes in the program using the 3d rotation in the control

 

like this

11 CALL LBL 2 ; TOOL CHANGE

12 ; 14MM DRILL

13 TOOL CALL 41 Z S1490

14 CALL LBL 7 ; TOP

15 ;

16 L Z+127 F MAX M3

17 L X+31.8 Y-52.4 R0 F MAX

18 L Z+25.4 F MAX M8

19 CYCL DEF 200 DRILLING ~

Q200=10 ;SET-UP CLEARANCE ~

Q201=-25 ;DEPTH ~

Q206=454 ;FEED RATE FOR PLNGNG ~

Q202=25 ;PLUNGING DEPTH ~

Q210=0 ;DWELL TIME AT TOP ~

Q203=+0 ;SURFACE COORDINATE ~

Q204=127 ;2ND SET-UP CLEARANCE ~

Q211=0 ;DWELL TIME AT DEPTH

20 L X+31.8 Y-52.4 F MAX M99

21 L Y-152.4 F MAX M99

 

 

then these labels are at the end of every program

 

825 LBL 1

826 ; ROTATE TO FRONT

827 CYCL DEF 19.0 WORKING PLANE

828 CYCL DEF 19.1

829 Z-140 F MAX M91

830 L Y-2540 F MAX M91

831 CYCL DEF 19.0 WORKING PLANE

832 CYCL DEF 19.1 B+0 C+0

833 CYCL DEF 302 HEAD ORIENTATION ~

Q352=0 ;ANGLE A ~

Q353=+180 ;ANGLE B ~

Q354=0 ;WEIGHT

834 CYCL DEF 19.0 WORKING PLANE

835 CYCL DEF 19.1 B+0 C+0

836 CYCL DEF 8.0 MIRROR IMAGE

837 CYCL DEF 8.1

838 CYCL DEF 7.0 DATUM SHIFT

839 CYCL DEF 7.1 X+0

840 CYCL DEF 7.2 Y+0

841 CYCL DEF 7.3 Z+0

842 LBL 0

843 ;

844 LBL 2

845 ; ROTATE TO TOP

846 CYCL DEF 19.0 WORKING PLANE

847 CYCL DEF 19.1

848 Z-140 F MAX M91

849 L Y-2540 F MAX M91

850 CYCL DEF 19.0 WORKING PLANE

851 CYCL DEF 19.1 B+0 C+0

852 CYCL DEF 8.0 MIRROR IMAGE

853 CYCL DEF 8.1

854 CYCL DEF 7.0 DATUM SHIFT

855 CYCL DEF 7.1 X+0

856 CYCL DEF 7.2 Y+268.5

857 CYCL DEF 7.3 Z-0.035

858 CYCL DEF 302 HEAD ORIENTATION ~

Q352=0 ;ANGLE A ~

Q353=+0 ;ANGLE B ~

Q354=0 ;WEIGHT

859 CYCL DEF 19.0 WORKING PLANE

860 CYCL DEF 19.1 B+180 C+0

861 CYCL DEF 8.0 MIRROR IMAGE

862 CYCL DEF 8.1 X Y

863 L Z+254 R0 F MAX

864 LBL 0

[Guest]

Here is a sample of code we got with the machine

%800071 G70 *

N15 G0 G40 G90 *

N20 M115 *

N25 G80 *

N30;(T 1) *

N35;( 4.00 FACEMILL) *

N40;(VERICUT-TC 4, .06, 1.94, .06, 0, 0, 1) *

N45 M00 *

N50 T1 G17 *

N55 G80 *

N60 L1.0 *

N65 G302 Q352=+0 Q353=+180 Q354=0 *

N70 G80 C+0 B+180 *

N75 T1 G17 *

N80 G62 T0.03 *

N85 G53 P01 2 *

N90 G00 G40 G90 X-22.95 Y+11.75 Z+6.99 *

N95 M08 *

N100 S2500 M03 *

N105 G00 Z+2.99 *

N110 G01 Z+2.89 F500 *

N115 X-20.75 *

N120 G02 X-11.75 Y+20.75 R+9. *

N125 G01 X+11.75 *

N130 G02 X+20.75 Y+11.75 R+9. *

N135 G01 Y-11.75 *

N140 G02 X+11.75 Y-20.75 R+9. *

N145 G01 X-11.75 *

N150 G02 X-20.75 Y-11.75 R+9. *

N155 G01 Y+11.75 *

N160 X-17.75 *

N165 G02 X-11.75 Y+17.75 R+6. *

N170 G01 X+11.75 *

N175 G02 X+17.75 Y+11.75 R+6. *

N180 G01 Y-11.75 *

N185 G02 X+11.75 Y-17.75 R+6. *

N190 G01 X-11.75 *

N195 G02 X-17.75 Y-11.75 R+6. *

N200 G01 Y+11.75 *

N205 X-14.75 *

N210 G02 X-11.75 Y+14.75 R+3. *

N215 G01 X+11.75 *

N220 G02 X+14.75 Y+11.75 R+3. *

N225 G01 Y-11.75 *

N230 G02 X+11.75 Y-14.75 R+3. *

N235 G01 X-11.75 *

N240 G02 X-14.75 Y-11.75 R+3. *

N245 G01 Y+11.75 *

N250 X-11.75 *

N255 X+11.75 *

N260 Y-11.75 *

N265 X-11.75 *

N270 Y+11.75 *

N275 G00 Z+6.89 *

N280 G00 X-22.95 Z+6.975 *

N285 G00 Z+2.975 *

N290 G01 Z+2.875 *

N295 X-20.75 *

N300 G02 X-11.75 Y+20.75 F250 R+9. *

N305 G01 X+11.75 *

N310 G02 X+20.75 Y+11.75 R+9. *

N315 G01 Y-11.75 *

N320 G02 X+11.75 Y-20.75 R+9. *

N325 G01 X-11.75 *

N330 G02 X-20.75 Y-11.75 R+9. *

N335 G01 Y+11.75 *

N340 X-17.75 *

N345 G02 X-11.75 Y+17.75 R+6. *

N350 G01 X+11.75 *

N355 G02 X+17.75 Y+11.75 R+6. *

N360 G01 Y-11.75 *

N365 G02 X+11.75 Y-17.75 R+6. *

N370 G01 X-11.75 *

N375 G02 X-17.75 Y-11.75 R+6. *

N380 G01 Y+11.75 *

N385 X-14.75 *

N390 G02 X-11.75 Y+14.75 R+3. *

N395 G01 X+11.75 *

N400 G02 X+14.75 Y+11.75 R+3. *

N405 G01 Y-11.75 *

N410 G02 X+11.75 Y-14.75 R+3. *

N415 G01 X-11.75 *

N420 G02 X-14.75 Y-11.75 R+3. *

N425 G01 Y+11.75 *

N430 X-11.75 *

N435 X+11.75 *

N440 Y-11.75 *

N445 X-11.75 *

N450 Y+11.75 *

N455 X-6.75 F500 *

N460 G00 Z+6.875 *

N465 G40 *

N470 M05 *

N475 M09 *

[mayday]

have you written any code yourself yet?

do you have a basic post for it? if not the MPmaster_heid is a good starter. emastercam has it but I think you have to ask Axsys for it first

does yours have the 3d rotation in the control?

[Guest]

No I haven't written any code.

They did send me the Mpmaster_heid.

Axsys did contact emastercam but they have done anything else. They keep telling me they need someone to let them know what the code is supposed to look like. I found out our machine is very simular to yours. We have a universal head and a rotary table.

[mayday]

to be safe I think you should post some code and test it at the machine. see what it likes and what it dont like. We can go from there. I would tend to stay away from the ISO code. stick with the conversational output. i could send you a small program to try from our post also if thats helps you. do you have TNCREMO set up to communicate?

[Guest]

yes I have tncremo. can you send me a sample program ?

[mayday]

Im gonna have snowman throw somthing at ya. He's the guy I hung with programming this beast. Its been a long time since I had to write code for it so Im a little rusty at explaining the complications you will find yourself with. just remember with 3d rotation active your XYZ axis go berzerk when you rotate the head. and get used to the fact you dont have G54 work offsets. Datum shifts instead. I have set up Q values to simulate G54 offsets for rotory table work but its a pain

[snowman]

Hey todd check your mail.

[G Caputo]

Playing with new cutters all day and I miss a Heid thread. Anything Mayday or Snowman can't help you with Todd, feel free to email me or post it on the forum. All I program is Heid's here. 14 years on the floor and and 2 with Mcam. Like mayday suggested go with the conversational instead of the ISO format you posted here.

[Guest]

thanks snowman and Mayday I will give the progam a try and let you know.

[PE @ IHS]

We have a post for your machine. Please have your reseller contact Dave Thomson (site admin) for more info.

[Guest]

Peter,

Was the post made for a FPT Sythesis with a tnc 430 controll?

If so we have a universal head.

[Allan Brown]

Same head config, although the machine we did a post for could handle the CYCLE 302 in conversational, had to go 'ISO' where G302 which should be exactly the same worked. Cycle 19 was about physical machine angles, not spatial angles, which is especially strange on a nutating head...

 

Anyways, I'm sure we could get something going.

[Guest]

Thanks Dave,

Axsys is dragging there feet for some reason.I am waiting for them now. We gave them a green light to purchase the post from you.

[Allan Brown]

Horizontal machine, but the code you copied here was for the head in Vertical mode? It is then quite similar to what we've done.