Windows ME

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

Hi All,

My company just bought me a new Dell 1.7mhz

that came with win ME installed. Very fast but in mastercam the mouse cursor is black and the background color is black. As a stop gap fix I changed the background to Dk gray. Anybody know how to change the mouse cursor color? This same mouse and driver worked on the old computer.

Thanks

Karl

[Bullines]

We have a similar thread going on right now:

http://www.emastercam.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...ic&f=1&t=001438

Also, have you updated your video card drivers?

[Allan]

Nothing wrong with the mouse or mouse driver....Video..Video..Video.

check out this thread. http://www.emastercam.com/cgi-bin/ultimate...ic&f=1&t=001438

[cadcam]

Another sugestion remove WINME.

Will give you trouble down the road.

I possable go to WIN2K.

JM2C

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Ya know, a thoguht just occurred to me, the folks at Dell should get a clue and stop putting ME in all those Hot Rod Systems they're building these days. Only put it in the Celeron Machines.

JMHO

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

Hey thanks for all the advice. Sorry that none seem to work at this time. As to installing Win2k I personally would love to but it's not my computer. If I can convince the powers that be to let me try I'll let you know what results if any. So for now it's a dark grey background. Not to bad once I get used to it.

[gcode]

Karl,

There is a thread on this forum labeled

New NVIDIA drivers. It has a link to the very latest drivers for all NVIDIA chips.

You might try downloading and installing the new drivers.

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

GCode,

Thanks will try the newest and greatest. I will not have time right now but maybe during lunch. Will keep everyone informed.

Karl

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

Hi,

Newest and greatest nvidia drivers were no good. Went to 20.81 detinator driver. ALL screen functions dropped about 30 - 50 percent. Maybe 'cause it's OEM???? Oh well gray is not too bad once you get used to it!

Thanks all

[Bullines]

I wouldn't blame it on the fact that it's an OEM card. I have a Dell Dimension desktop at home with a Dell OEM nVidia GeForce 256 based card, and the nVidia drivers work much better than Dell's drivers. Something else must be causing it. But of course, the question is "what"?

[cadcam]

Dame i never ask what vidio card is in there?

It should tell you in all the books it came with.

We may have been telling you to use the wrong drivers.

[Bullines]

Good point, Jay. A slight oversight on all our parts

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

The card is an Nvidia Geforce2 mx 400 with tv out and 32 meg . Hope this helps.

[Bullines]

Ok then. We forgot to ask what kind of video card was in there, but we guessed correctly

But since you mentioned that your card is an MX version, that brings up something. We (the propellerheads at In-House Solutions) have noticed that MX versions of the GeForce2 do some funky things sometimes. Sometimes they leave artifacts (graphics term for little pieces of whatever) when you perform certain functions like zooming and rotating geometry with surfaces. This is the second instance I've heard of cursor colour problems but I've never seen it first-hand.

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

Hmmmm. I have not noticed any thing like that. I used one of the solid examples to check the graphics speed. i.e fully shaded rotation. With the old driver the rotation is about what I'd expect, but the newest was way clunky (no other way to describe it).I might just replace win ME with 2k (on the sly of course) just to try it out. Do I need to fdisk/reformat as ntfs to do this? If so I would try it on my home comp. first (750 mhz).

[Mark H]

I have the same video card and dont have any major problems. I do get the "artifacts" ocasionaly but my cursor is normal - white. BUT I am running Win2k Pro. Also the driver version I just downloaded is 2181 you stated that you had 2081. If that's not a typo, get the latest.

[Bullines]

You can run Windows 2000 on FAT16 or FAT32 disks, but of course the security features of NTFS wouldn't be utilized. Keep in mind, once you try Windows 2000, you'll never want to go back to Windows ME or any of the other crappy commercial version of Windows 9x.

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

sorry it is a typo 21.81

[gcode]

Kar,

When you were doing your speed test with the new drivers, did you have Open Gl enabled

on Screen/Config/Screen page?

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

GCode,

I don't know..I didn't turn them on or off shouldn't it be on by default? Would the driver setup turn it off?

I'll try to make time to install the 21.81 drivers again. Every time I get a minute something turns up that needs done yesterday.

[Bullines]

The nVidia driver setup wouldn't turn off the OpenGL setting in Mastercam. Mastercam appears to use its own OpenGL DLL, as well as its own Microsoft Visual C++ runtime library and MFC DLLs anyway.

[Karl@CP PISTONS]

Hey All,

Thanks for all the help. I came in on the weekend and installed win 2k (don't tell my Sys. Op. guy please!!!).Right I've got it dual booting so if any body asks I still have the original operating system. The news is great ....White cursor on black background.

Will keep win2k on till i'm forced to.

The network powers don't seem to be bothered so everything is good

Thanks again!!!!!!!