Light extrusion and drill machine

[SLJ]

Ok guys, I'd rather have Mori or Makino too, but for a light duty aluminum extrusion and drill machine, would you go Fadal or Haas? Looking to replace two vertical Fadals, 4020 and 3016. I've no experience with the Haas, but some seem to like them for the lighter stuff. All programing would be offline, any post issues with the Haas?

[Guest]

If I HAD to choose between HAAS and Fadal, mind you I don't like either, I'd likely go with the :gag: HAAS

[mold100]

Same, I have ran both ALOT, used to be FADAL fan b4 I knew better, Although if you opt for the fanuc 18i on the FADAL it will hands down smoke the haas from the control stand point. But what they charge to upgrade to that, and what you will be cutting, you cant go wrong with the haas. If its not bigger parts dont discount the fanuc robodrill with the 16i.

[mold100]

Will you be selling those others machines or trading them ?

[SLJ]

Just guessing that they will be traded. The 3016 isn't a bad machine, but the 4020A(longer "Z" stroke) has had several issues lately, especially after the flood!

[iowajim62]

I have ran both. My current job has 2 Haas VF2SS and 5 VF4SS with 5-axis trunnions used on a dedicated product line. Several million $$$ worth of finished product went out the door last year for less than a one million dollar investment. We had a trunnion that needed attention and a Y-axis drive needed replaced. They run 2 10 hr shifts and 5-6 hrs on Sat. All the machines are in great condition after running hard for a year+. We have Renishaw OMP-40 probes and run a daily verify routine that never shows more than .0007-.0008 deviation on the hottest days.(NO climate Control ) Very cost-effective machines for the right applications.

[SLJ]

Well, hard to keep up. Sounds like the Haas/Fadal question has morphed into a 4020L and a 6030 Doosan. With 4 DVC-400s and a DHP-5000 here already I may need to learn Korean!

[Rick Henrickson The Boeing Co.]

the doosan's are not bad at all, step up from HAAS and FADAL at a good price!

[Mike @ BC-MFG]

Our Haas toolroom mill makes Our 4020 Fadal look stupid. If that tells you anything. Our Doosan trumps them both. I agree with Rick step up to Doosan. I think you'll find the prices to be pretty close.

[Greg Williams]

How about Fanuc Robodrill?

[mold100]

Greg, I second that motion, For smaller travels I have been looking into a hurco VM1 also the robo drill has a drill mate with a base price of 38,000 its not the higher up robodrill but still good price and i imagine decent, the hurco is still more imo more reliable than haas or fadal, and a 40 taper vs. the robodrill bt30.

[SLJ]

The Doosan 4020LS and Mecatec 6030 have been here a couple of months now. Decent machines, especially the 4020LS, but Dealer problems(likes to sell, but not support) will probably move us into Mori or Makino next time. Thanks guys

[elbro]

We have a couple of Brother machines here very very fast. I like them better than the robodrill.