Mazak tool numbering question

[Thad]

We are trying to create a standardized tool library for all of our machines. In order to do so, we need to use tool/offset numbers that are higher than the number of tools that the machine supports. Our Mazak has 30 tools. Is it possible to be able to renumber the tool to anything that we want? We're still only using 30 tools at any given time, I just want to call them tools 40-70 if I need to. Our other machines have this capability but so far, there doesn't seem to be a way to do it on our Mazak. Does anyone know of something in the control that allows you to renumber the tools to a number above 30?

 

Machine:

Mazak

Nexus 410A

Model# VCN-410A

 

Control:

Mazatrol

PC-Fushion-CNC 640M

 

 

Thanks!

Thad

[crazy^millman]

Using Mazatrol to control the tools? Why not use the letters. Go into the control and add suffix to tool 1 and have tool 1 (26 times) and tool 2 (26 times) so in all reality on a Mazak you could have 1040 tools for it with no problem.

 

HTH

[Thad]

Thanks Ron. Our Mazak guy is looking into it. I'm not too familiar with the machine myself.

 

Anyone else?

 

Thad

[robk]

+1 to what Ron suggested. You could also assign a variable for your tool info;

 

 

 

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N117 T96.7 M06

#3901 = #4114

G20 G69 G80 G40 G49 G17 G90 G94 G98

G10.9 X0 (SET RAD MODE)

G91 G28 Z0

G91 G28 X0 Y0

G90

.

.

.

G90 G54.1 P24 X8.0875 Y-.0636 B0.0

M19

G97 S855 M3

G43 X8.0875 Y-.0636 Z25.0 H#3020

G46 X8.0875 D#3020

G0 Z8.4578

M08

X9.2125

[Thad]

Thanks Rob. Is that on the Mazatrol side too? Looks like we don't use Mazatrol, but my co-worker is going to find out if we can use both.

 

A side note, if we ended up going the variable route, we would need to be able to output this code from MC, WorkNC and FeatureCAM. I guess I'd have to see if that's possible with all three of those.

 

 

Ron, on your suggestion, can you give a sample of what the code would look like? Would the posted code still use T49 H49 D49 (with the number changing going on invisibly in the background), or would it need to be non-standard code like Rob's example above?

 

I should also note that these tool numbers may need to be changed somewhat frequently. We're not a production shop so each part is different.

 

 

Thad

[robk]

Thad, the only thing we use Mazatrol for in here is to define the tools. You kind of have to on mill-turn machines. We do not use mazatrol for actual programming...

 

 

Variables numbered 51999 and 3020 can be used to read the tool number, and the number of

tool data index, of the tool mounted in the spindle.

[Thad]

I'll check back in on Monday. Thanks for the help!

 

Thad

[crazy^millman]

(PROGRAM NAME - E99460)
(CUSTOMER 	- GOODRICH LANDING)
(PART NUMBER  - 115U9165-1/115U9166-1 REV NC3)
(MODEL #  	- 115U9165-1/115U9166-1 REV NC3.CATPART)
(PROGRAMMER   - RON 
(DATE     	- JUL-30-2008)
(TIME     	- 7:59 AM)
(PROGRAM REV  - N/C)
(POST LICENSE - V&M PRECISION)
(T1  | 1" ROUGHER ENDMILL         	|  EIA SUFFIX - .17 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - R)
(T2  | 1" CARBIDE FINISH ENDMILL  	|  EIA SUFFIX - .06 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - F)
(T6  | 3/4 FLAT BOTTOM ENDMILL    	|  EIA SUFFIX - .06 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - F)
(T5  | 1/2 BALL ENDMILL           	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T3  | 3/4 BULL ENDMILL .125R     	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T8  | 1/2 BULL .125R ENDMILL     	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T20 | 1/4 BALL ENDMILL           	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T4  | 1/2 3 FLUTE ENDMILL        	|  EIA SUFFIX - .06 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - F)
(T10 | 1.0003 BORING BAR          	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T11 | .7503 BORING BAR           	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T7  | #3 CENTER DRILL            	|  EIA SUFFIX - .03 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - C)
(T12 | 5/16(.3125) DRILL          	|  EIA SUFFIX - .04 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - D)
(T13 | .325 REAMER                	|  EIA SUFFIX - .17 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - R)
(T17 | 3/8 BULL ENDMILL .045R     	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
(T18 | 5/16 BALL ENDMILL          	|  EIA SUFFIX - .02 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - 
G20 G49 G69 G80 G40 G17 G90 G94
M205

N1
(T1 | 1" ROUGHER ENDMILL         	| EIA SUFFIX - .17 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - R)
G20 G10.9 X0
G91 G30 P3 X0.
G30 P3 Z0.
T1.17 T2 M6
G91 G30 P3 X0. Z0.
G90
M200
M212
G94 G0 G54 C0.
M210
M108
G0 B0.
M107
G97 S7000 M03
G68 X0. Y0. Z0. I0. J1. K0. R0.
G0 G17 G43 X-.0002 Y6.37 Z6.
M8
Z4.
G1 Z3.7525 F200.
Y5.37 F160.

N2
(T2 | 1" CARBIDE FINISH ENDMILL  	| EIA SUFFIX - .06 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - F)
(ROUGH AND FINISH SIDE OF EAR)
G20 G10.9 X0
G91 G30 P3 X0.
G30 P3 Z0.
T2.06 T6 M6
G91 G30 P3 X0. Z0.
G90
M200
M212
G94 G0 G54 C357.591
M210
G0 B90.
M107
G97 S3800 M03
G68 X0. Y0. Z0. I0. J1. K0. R90.
G0 G17 G43 X-.8121 Y-1.7442 Z8.

N4
(T6 | 3/4 FLAT BOTTOM ENDMILL    	| EIA SUFFIX - .06 | MAZATROL SUFFIX - F)
(FLAT BOTTOM POCKETS 1ST)
G20 G10.9 X0
G91 G30 P3 X0.
G30 P3 Z0.
T6.06 T5 M6
G91 G30 P3 X0. Z0.
G90
M200
M212
G94 G0 G54 C340.
M211
G0 B90.
G97 S6000 M03
G0 G18 G43.4 X8.6276 Y.5259 Z2.1743
M8
X4.8276
G1 X4.6276 F20.

 

The EIA side should still have ability to expand the tools, the Mazatrol side of the control for the tools and using EIA from Mastercam to run the machine is the best use of a Mazak machine IMHO.

 

HTH