i7 Processors...better than xeon?

[jeff]

Most of what we do is 2d high speed but the multiaxis will be taking over next year. Toolpaths were just taking too long with X5 and with X6 zig zagging we are alot happier but still the long processing time is irritating enough to spend a few dollars. What would a SSD cost for this PC? Maybe I will add it later. We may also pickup 2 of these PCs so I will have that option later.

 

Depends on how big you go,a 120gb SSD will run you about $100

Use the ssd for your C drive, and the 2TB for storage.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=636&name=Internal-SSD

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Use the ssd for your C drive, and the 2TB for storage.

 

Which means you want it it from the get-go. Trying to migrate a Windows installation to an SSD isn't fun (especially without the OS install disk), unless one of you knows a trick you'd like to share?

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

I totally hear ya, I'm all for buying the best and fastest rig out there,but some companies just can't afford it. Especially the small 8 man job shops, which there are a ton of here in the metro Detroit area, even though I'm just outside of that.

I'm also for not overpaying for performance,my current computer here is faster than most of those solidboxx computers, with zero issues, and a warranty.

That's all I'm trying to say, I paid 1/2 the price, still get a 3yr warranty and it's faster. They do nothing special to their overpriced computers, there is no such thing as "optimized" for Mastercam. lol it's a marketing ploy that everyone falls for.

 

I'm not talking going top of the line here. I'm just talking about the difference between a $1,200 rig and a $2,000 rig. Kind of a mid entry level point if you ask me. There's a big enough difference in performance at that level that totaly justifies the extra $800. That was really my point.

 

I can;t really talk about my rig because it was around $5k, maybe more, and yes, worth every red penny of it. With the work I do, I was able to justify the expence with a 10 month ROI when condisering my last rig. I figure this should will last me another year to 18 months depending on how many mouth breather TSA goons get their hands on it at the airport. If it lives another 18 months, that will be a 4 year old rig.

 

"Optimized for Mastercam"..

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

You want that SSD form the get-go. Don't put it off. You do, you'll regret the time and effort. But, if you're dead set on going that route, put ALL your data on the seond drive that way, when you get the itch, you can get an SSD and install your OS and software, then you'll be off ot the races. Don't forget to keep track of performance type stuff. How long to do a cold boot, how long to re-boot, how fast to programs start, etc...

 

Oh, and on the SSD, no need for VIrtual Memory on an SSD so you don't loose that storage space.

 

After all that, kick yourself hard and repeatedly for not doing it from the get-go. Just sayin'

[jeff]

and if you do get an SSD, don't run a disk defrag!

[Thoob]

Windows 7 optimizes for SSD's. Stuff like defrag are turned off by default. I agree an SSD is the way to go. I have one at work and one at home. They are the cats xxxx. Boot times are great, 15-20 secs full start up.

[Thee Rickster ™]

My home P.c. is a I7 3730k @3.2ghz, 16 gig ddr3 1600mhz ram, 120 solid state drive

DX79T0 MB, Quadro 4000 viddy

 

Its aight....

[BTA]

Ok I will do a 120gig SSD then. My guy will install the OS on it. Thanks for the suggestion!!

[BTA]

and if you do get an SSD, don't run a disk defrag!

 

What happens?

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

10, 9, 8, 7, ......

 

 

 

It uses read/write cycles.

[jeff]

Taken from a user on Tom's Hardware forum:

 

"The 2 main reasons for defragging your disk is to limit the amount of times the drive heads have to move to a different section of the disk to read the data (limit the use of seek times on the disk). The second is to place the majority of your data on the outer edge of the disk where your read and write speeds are faster on a mechanical drive do to simple mechanical physics.

 

SSD's elimate both of these, one their seek times are next to nil. So moving to a different section of the disk causes little to no delay in data read/writes so you dont need to have a file placed sequentially on the disk. And their is no drop in performance over the entire size of the disk because there is no mechanical limiting factor continually writing everything to a particular section on an SSD will actually decrease the life expectancy on the drive as there are only so many writes per cell before failure. "

 

 

"So back to the question of defragmenting. When you defrag a hard drive, especially a SSD, it will end up causing tons of small write accesses, which will reduce the lifespan of the hard drive. And since data is not being read sequentially, it doesn’t matter if the file is stored in a hundred different places, the performance will remain the same.

So, no, you should not defrag an SSD. And performing one will actually reduce the life of your drive. All of the SSD manufacturer’s know of this problem and they have come up with an optimization technique with the use of the TRIM command."

[Thee Rickster ™]

You dont defrag a thumb drive either

 

Here is some googled info

 

Defrag is for hardrive with rotating discs storage and data gets placed every where

and the reader find it and assembles it so to speak

 

SSD is basically non-volatile flash memory it randomly accesses memory instead of sequentially like an HDD

it randomly accesses memory instead of sequentially like an HDD

 

And since data is not being read sequentially, it doesn’t matter if the file is stored in a hundred

different places, the performance will remain the same.

[Jayson Kramer]

And buy the way there is a difference between a Sata 2 or Sata 3 being 3G or 6G so you want this to be a sta 3 on a 6g sata port.

I own 6 of this ssds and even have had one die 6 months in.

[BTA]

LOL I understand what a solid state drive is I just dont understand why you would have a defrag option when it cannot be done and widows is basically asking it for something it doesnt have an option for. Like a one handed handshake or the sounds of one hand clapping..he he he

[drafting3]

My home P.c. is a I7 3730k @3.2ghz, 16 gig ddr3 1600mhz ram, 120 solid state drive

DX79T0 MB, Quadro 4000 viddy

 

Its aight....

 

what did your comp benchmark at? that's pretty close to what i'm going to be building here at work.

[Thee Rickster ™]

46 secs

 

i7-3730k 3.2ghz hexacore

16GB Memory ddr3 1600

120GB Intel Cherryville sata/600 SSD

Quadro 4000

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit

X6 Mu1

 

I don't know if MU2 would be faster, havent checked

[Jayson Kramer]

Getting 0.42 secs off my not so new setup now . few months old now.

[Jeremy Herron@DBS Solutions™]

I can overclock my system and benchmark at 20.01 secs, where I run it and am happy with my watercooled box is is 28.72.

[TK-32™]

CTRL+ SCRN-PRNT

 

screen shots or it didn't happen

[Jeremy Herron@DBS Solutions™]