Okuma P200 Mac-Man

[T_MALENA]

Does any one understand how to use Mac-Man? I'm attempting to output the "operation history" at a specific interval(s). I'd like to output at least daily. Does anyone know how to do it? I configured it to output to a specific folder on the machine & also can output to a folder on the network but only if I manually go to the machine & physically press the button. Is this possible with the standard OSP200? Do I need to purchase the Mac-Man net?

 

T.I.A.

[YoDoug®]

There is no way to automatically generate reports that I am aware of in the standard spec. MacManNet will let you do want you want plus a whole lot more, however it is very expensive. You can access most MacMan data through the API, If you are good with VB.NET you could write a simple app to automatically force the reports daily.

[T_MALENA]

Well I'm not good with th VB stuff. And I only get the basics of how to get data/manipulate through the api.

[T_MALENA]

How's your graphite machining going?

[YoDoug®]

How's your graphite machining going?

 

They are up and running and starting to see the little issues pop up that you warned me about. I helped them set up some more probing routines to be able to do random checks in the machine when the CMM starts showing weird data. Also I am concerned that putting that machine on a truck and shipping it 1500 miles has blown the graphite into ever switch and sensor in the machine. We get a lot of random ATC and APC hangups from IO signals not triggering properly.

[T_MALENA]

Welcome to my world. Oh yea we sold that to MMD. Just remember the issues they have are their problem. If the cutter is sharp & offsets are correct, & pallet is flat the issue is their material. It could be ANYTHING from moisture to temp of the room, AND almost anything in between. Its like cutting the easiest & most difficult thing all wrapped into one. And the tolerance that UTC wants is crazy. Holding flatness & parralelism on a 20"x20"x .123 plate in any material is tough. Aslo they have to go with the vendor (CGS) I suggested they use to reblade/sharpen those big cutters. I personally developed that cutter into what it is with their help, we spent at least 18months trying everything from carbide grades, relief & hook angle etc. That guy has it together! We went through a number of grinders & settled with CGS.

 

Have fun.

 

Do you know how to get that data(mac-man) out of the OSP?

[YoDoug®]

They have assumed responsibility for the results, I just give them support from the Okuma side. They are easy to work with and are definitely a good customer from my point of view. AFAIK they are using the grinder you recommended.

 

As for the MacMan, Do you mean at the control, pull a daily report? Or through a .NET app? I am pretty new to .Net/Okuma API apps. I have a few projects planned that should be good experience but I have been so busy that they are on back burner for now. I have a tool life library management app using barcode scanners to read tool life data in and out of a machine to a network database in planning. I have been learning the DB side .NET first for this app.

[T_MALENA]

"issues are their problem" I ment the issues that come up are a result of their matl. & not the Okuma. I went around & around about that. I finally got everyone here to understand the CNC is the most solid part of the whole process & very rarely changes. The fluctuations were the material.

 

As for the Mac-Man, I'd like to get a report generated every 24 hrs. It can save them to the D:MD1 or any area on the machine drive, doesn't have to be on the network. Also if it just automatically generates a log file thats great. I have all the machines setup with remote access so I can retreive the files from my laptop when needed.

 

Thanks.

[Greg Williams]

Can you just output the data you want with READ/WRITE GET/PUT commands? If you want to remote to the machine just install a remote access software, I use RealVNC here, works from a PC, Ipad/iphone etc

[T_MALENA]

Greg, "output the data you want with READ/WRITE GET/PUT commands?" I dont know, maybe I dont undersatnd what you are getting at/or dont know how to fully use the "write get" options.

 

As for remote access, that exactly what I have & it works great, I have full access to the machine from my laptop. I can see the harddrive of the Okuma, modify/delete/add programs as easy as drag & drop. Can also do anything a operator can do with the Okuma touch screen. And also have access to a few of the hard buttons. It works really awesome when there is a issue here on a back shift & I remote in from home to have a look see & fix the issue.

 

What I want to do is have MacMan create a log file of the operations history at least every 24 hrs. Where ever it saves that file is ok with me, as long as I can remote in & retrieve it. The problem I can't figure out is "how to get the P200 to automatically create the file". I can generate the file by physically pressing the MacMan keys & create it myself. Now that works for now, but there has to be a easier way. My CNC's are throughout the building in production cells, not a CNC dept. Also about 1/4 mile from my desk. Yes 1/4 MILE, no typo. Realized that when I found the peodometer in my cell phone, avg 3-4miles a day.

[T_MALENA]

Doug, The weird data from the CMM is probably from the porous material and/or the density not being uniform throughout the entire plate. Judge that by the CMM not giving consistant data from part to part. Also if it shows the pitch is off between multiple grooves on the same cutter - refer to the Zoller report from CGS to justify that. They are buying the Zoller report correct!!?

[YoDoug®]

Tim, Does the machine have Okuma Constant Care loaded. If so you can use the Panel Mode to switch to Macman without having to physically press the macman button. It still won't generate the reports automatically but it would save you the 1/4 mile walk to the machine.

[Kdrecker]

T Malena, where you ever able to pull the macman operator history without manually doing it at the machine?

[T_MALENA]

Kdrecker,  I have the MacMan generating a log of what I need...not automatically like was discussed above.  My need for the auto generated file was to see what was happening on the off shifts - operator was "adjusting" and shouldn't have been. Needless to say he is no longer here. So the need is gone also.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Dang, I thought for a moment that you had gotten your control to play Pac-Man.

[YoDoug®]

Dang, I thought for a moment that you had gotten your control to play Pac-Man.

 

Technically since its a Windows PC you could go onto a classic arcade game website and play Pac-Man while your machine is running parts. A lot of managers at customers ask us not to show operators how to get to the computer side of the control while training for reasons like this.  

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

 

 

Technically since its a Windows PC you could go onto a classic arcade game website and get a virus while your machine is running parts.

 

Fiss.

[YoDoug®]

Fiss.

 

It can happen, we had a customer get a computer virus from a second shift operator surfing porn at night.

 

However i've only seen it once or twice in five years. 

 

That was a few years ago. Okuma now offers a realtime virus protection system that can be auto updated online or run offline updates as needed. 

[mkd]

had third party antivirus cause very strange behavior on an win XP router a few years ago. actually messed with tool change cycle where it broke some tool-pots.

ten year old installation running modern AV.....

 lucky thermwood makes a re-load super easy.

 

some day we are all going to regret all this windoze convenience, when the Chinese or Russians decide to shut us down.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

How about Linux convenience?  I would think that could be significantly more secure.

[mkd]

How about Linux convenience?  I would think that could be significantly more secure.

I'm no hacking expert, but i guess it depends on whether you believe a decentralized developed operating system is more secure than a centrally controlled one.

With all the many Linux distros available, I'm guessing, hackers might know more than the orig developer. You might just be downloading a hacked version.

 on the other hand recent revelations of 20 year old windows security holes doesn't lend confidence either.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

More like security pipelines now.  They aren't even trying to hide it anymore.