X7 Verify quality bad

[crazy^millman]

Call your dealer and let them help you. Why you pay maintenance.

[Oscar R.]

Here's a part verified at 8 WITHOUT accurate zoom. Took about 5 sec. to load and 10sec. to verify. Part is approx 4 by 6.

 

Well now that make sense. I have a 100,00kb + file that just blew up MC when I tried to very it at 8 factor.

90% surfacing and high speed toolpaths everywhere.

[GoetzInd]

Just did a descent 3d part and still handled it wayyyyy faster than old verify without issue. Will update when I get a chance to do 50k Kb part.

 

Mike

[crazy^millman]

I am doing a 140kb Verify and it is popping up in seconds and verify is light speed faster than the old Verify. I always keep Verify up now and never close it and reopen it no need to with this new one. I keep programming new operations while it is Verifying the other operations.

[CamMan1]

Just did a descent 3d part and still handled it wayyyyy faster than old verify without issue. Will update when I get a chance to do 50k Kb part.

 

Mike

 

What video card do you have in that Solidbox and what driver version are you running if I may ask?

[CamMan1]

Wish this was the case on my machine. Verify takes 20-30 seconds just to activte the play button on a very simple 2 tool program, it also crashes about 25% of the time. Because of the new verify, what took me 6 hours in X6 now takes 8 in X7.

My machine is a Dell Precision M4700 16GB ram and Quadro 2000

 

What xml file is everyone talking about? I've been through every directory in "my mcamx7" and don't have one xml file.

 

C:\Users\YOUR NAME\Documents\my mcamx7\MastercamSimulatorDefaults.xml

 

Open it and edit with notepad.

[crazy^millman]

I am using a Dell Precision 6600 Laptop 24 gig of Ram and 4000M Video Card.

[GoetzInd]

What video card do you have in that Solidbox and what driver version are you running if I may ask?

 

QUADRO K2000 Driver 310.90

[CamMan1]

Here's a part verified at 8 WITHOUT accurate zoom. Took about 5 sec. to load and 10sec. to verify. Part is approx 4 by 6.

 

 

Was this verification done in 3 axis or 5 axis engine mode?

 

By the way thanks for the Video card info.

[GoetzInd]

5 AXIS

[CamMan1]

Well that is simply amazing. I just set my Precision Factor to 8. I just drill 10 holes and faced one pass on a 12.00 x 16.00 x 2.50 stock 5 minutes ago and loaded it into verify with verify initially being closed and it is still loading. My memory is maxed out at 22.4 Gigs. Now it just finished loading after about 10 minutes and it's taking about 20 seconds to drill each hole. I can't take it anymore. Just closed verify before my PC blew up. I am running a Quadro 6000 with the same driver version as you GoetzInd. I don't know why there is such a huge difference.

[GoetzInd]

My XML for compare

 

 

<?xml version="1.0"?>

<SimulationSettings xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" Version="v1.0">

<Tolerances>

<CollisionTolerance>0.006</CollisionTolerance>

<TargetTolerance>0.006</TargetTolerance>

<HolderCollisionTolerance>0</HolderCollisionTolerance>

</Tolerances>

<StopConditions>

<Operationchange>false</Operationchange>

<ToolChange>false</ToolChange>

<Collision>false</Collision>

<CheckChangeXValue>false</CheckChangeXValue>

<CheckChangeYValue>false</CheckChangeYValue>

<CheckChangeZValue>false</CheckChangeZValue>

<ChangeStep>false</ChangeStep>

<ChangeXValue>0</ChangeXValue>

<ChangeYValue>0</ChangeYValue>

<ChangeZValue>0</ChangeZValue>

<CheckChangeXDelta>false</CheckChangeXDelta>

<CheckChangeYDelta>false</CheckChangeYDelta>

<CheckChangeZDelta>false</CheckChangeZDelta>

<ChangeStepOneBasedValue>1</ChangeStepOneBasedValue>

</StopConditions>

<VerifySettings>

<TrueThreadCutting>false</TrueThreadCutting>

<ShowEdges>false</ShowEdges>

<FastRendering>true</FastRendering>

<PrecisionIndex>5</PrecisionIndex>

<TurningHolderCut>true</TurningHolderCut>

<TurningArborCut>true</TurningArborCut>

<TurningShaftCut>true</TurningShaftCut>

<TurningFluteCut>true</TurningFluteCut>

<LatheHolderCut>true<f/LatheHolderCut>

<LatheFluteCut>true</LatheFluteCut>

<TurningHolderCollCheck>true</TurningHolderCollCheck>

<TurningArborCollCheck>false</TurningArborCollCheck>

<TurningShaftCollCheck>false</TurningShaftCollCheck>

<TurningFluteCollCheck>true</TurningFluteCollCheck>

<LatheHolderCollCheck>true</LatheHolderCollCheck>

<LatheFluteCollCheck>true</LatheFluteCollCheck>

<PrecisionFactor>8.0</PrecisionFactor>

</VerifySettings>

<BackplotSettings>

<LineThinkness>2.5</LineThinkness>

<PointThinkness>3.5</PointThinkness>

<showOperation>AllOperations</showOperation>

<showToolpathSegment>Follow</showToolpathSegment>

<showToolVectors>false</showToolVectors>

<showPoints>false</showPoints>

<showRapidMoves>true</showRapidMoves>

<showCompleteFollow>true</showCompleteFollow>

<showCompleteTrace>true</showCompleteTrace>

<numTrace>10</numTrace>

<numFollow>10</numFollow>

</BackplotSettings>

<RenderingSettings>

<Tool>CV_SHOW</Tool>

<HolderVis>true</HolderVis>

<MillingHolderColor>#336699</MillingHolderColor>

<ArborVis>true</ArborVis>

<MillingArborColor>#666666</MillingArborColor>

<ShaftVis>true</ShaftVis>

<MillingShaftColor>#999999</MillingShaftColor>

<FluteVis>true</FluteVis>

<MillingFluteColor>#DDBB00</MillingFluteColor>

<MillingToolAlpha>0.5</MillingToolAlpha>

<HolderTurningVis>true</HolderTurningVis>

<LatheHolderColor>#336699</LatheHolderColor>

<InserterVis>true</InserterVis>

<LatheInserterColor>#DDBB00</LatheInserterColor>

<LatheToolAlpha>0.5</LatheToolAlpha>

<StockVis>CV_SHOW</StockVis>

<StockColor>#F66D6D</StockColor>

<StockAlpha>0.5</StockAlpha>

<InitialStockVis>CV_HIDE</InitialStockVis>

<InitialStockColor>Goldenrod</InitialStockColor>

<InitialStockAlpha>0.5</InitialStockAlpha>

<WorkpieceVis>CV_HIDE</WorkpieceVis>

<WorkpieceColor>#BFBFBF</WorkpieceColor>

<WorkpieceAlpha>0.5</WorkpieceAlpha>

<ToolpathVis>CV_HIDE</ToolpathVis>

<RapidMoveColor>Yellow</RapidMoveColor>

<LinearFeedMoveColor>Cyan</LinearFeedMoveColor>

<ClockwiseArcMoveColor>Cyan</ClockwiseArcMoveColor>

<CounterClockwiseArcMoveColor>Cyan</CounterClockwiseArcMoveColor>

<backplotlineWidth>1</backplotlineWidth>

<MachineVis>CV_SHOW</MachineVis>

<MachineVisAlpha>0.5</MachineVisAlpha>

<MachineColor>#808080</MachineColor>

<TailstockColor>#FF00FF</TailstockColor>

<SteadyrestColor>#80FFD8</SteadyrestColor>

<ToolvectorVis>CV_SHOW</ToolvectorVis>

<ToolVectorColor>Orange</ToolVectorColor>

<ToolVectorLength>1</ToolVectorLength>

<toolVectorLineWidth>1</toolVectorLineWidth>

<ShowWireframeGeometries>true</ShowWireframeGeometries>

<autoFocus>CF_NONE</autoFocus>

</RenderingSettings>

<CustomSettings xsi:type="UbvsCustomSettings">

<StockToLeave>0</StockToLeave>

<ShowOnScreenInformation>true</ShowOnScreenInformation>

<drawMode>Operation</drawMode>

<IsColorLoop>true</IsColorLoop>

<ShowStlCompareMesh>true</ShowStlCompareMesh>

<StockCompareColors>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>-0.0576</EndValue>

<col>DarkRed</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>-0.0288</EndValue>

<col>Red</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>-0.0072</EndValue>

<col>Yellow</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>0.0072</EndValue>

<col>Green</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>0.0288</EndValue>

<col>LightBlue</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>0.0576</EndValue>

<col>Blue</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

<StockCompareGridItem>

<EndValue>INF</EndValue>

<col>DarkBlue</col>

</StockCompareGridItem>

</StockCompareColors>

<Scheme>

<SchemeColor>Yellow</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Blue</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>DarkMagenta</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Green</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Pink</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Aqua</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Orange</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Lime</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Maroon</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Navy</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Gold</SchemeColor>

<SchemeColor>Fuchsia</SchemeColor>

</Scheme>

<ToleranceUnit>Imperial</ToleranceUnit>

<SaveStlTolerance>0.001</SaveStlTolerance>

<PerformanceIndexVerification>10</PerformanceIndexVerification>

<PerformanceIndexBackplot>10</PerformanceIndexBackplot>

<MwSimCollCheckAgainstFixture>false</MwSimCollCheckAgainstFixture>

<MwSimCollCheckAgainstWorkpiece>false</MwSimCollCheckAgainstWorkpiece>

<MwSimCollCheckEnabledInBackplot>true</MwSimCollCheckEnabledInBackplot>

<MwSimCollCheckEnabledInVerification>true</MwSimCollCheckEnabledInVerification>

<MwSimCollCheckBetweenMoves>true</MwSimCollCheckBetweenMoves>

</CustomSettings>

</SimulationSettings>

[CamMan1]

<FastRendering>true</FastRendering> is what yours is set to. That is turbo mode which is set by default. It definitely is way faster in turbo. I don't use that because on the larger parts that I do the visual quality is pretty bad but for smaller parts it works great. I am sure that's the difference I'm seeing.

[CamMan1]

I just ran the program that choked my PC earlier with <FastRendering>true</FastRendering> and <PrecisionIndex>5</PrecisionIndex> and <PrecisionFactor>8.0</PrecisionFactor> and there was a huge difference in process time.

[GoetzInd]

How was the quality?

 

Mike

[CamMan1]

It was very good for 2D work. Unfortunately for me it is not that great for the 3D "kellering". That is pretty much all I do. When we get a Front End for UVBS it will be easy to adjust the settings dependent on the type of work you are doing and we won't have to bother with the XML editing. I hope! If I was doing all 2D I would have mine set like the post above. Having the Precision Index set at 5 or lower makes new file load times much faster. I think I am going to set mine to 3 and adjust once the file is loaded if need be.

[GoetzInd]

Yeah I'm def still using accurate zoom on the 3d stuff which I don't mind.

 

Mike

[Wox]

Hello,

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have one more question about the new Veryfy:

 

With the options of the simulation i can also set the tolerances.

But when i close and start Mastercam the tolerances are the old one.

The first Toleranz is allways 0.1524 and the STL is allways 0.0254.

And the Simulations-Engine ist allways 3-axis but i want allways 5-axis:

 

Where i can find the default settings, that i can change this?

 

In the MastercamSimulatorDefaults.xml File i don´t find this settings?

 

Sincerly

Wox

[Fretless]

Wox,

 

verify selected operations

 

verify tab

 

compare

 

select options button in the compare box

set to .075 for metric

 

press ok

 

after you change from 3 to 5 axis in the

 

file tab

 

options

 

then save to defaults

 

 

verify the correct path,close it and when it opens make sure it is the default file you just saved to.

 

I hope this helps

 

fretless

[Wox]

Hello,

 

Thank you for the answer.

 

 

if i change from 3 to 5 axis, i don´t have a button to save as default ?

 

 

 

Sincerely

Wox

[crazy^millman]

Wox only see that in MU1.

[Wox]

Oh i have SP2

[Product Manager CNC Software]

We are currently working on the area of rendered quality after a verify session on different sized parts. If anyone has any sample parts that they can send ([email protected]) we will use them as part of our testing effort. We try to anticipate what we expect to encounter, but there is no substitute for customer parts. All parts will be used internally only and will not be distributed. Thank You Very Much