1 hour ago, Jay Kramer @ Precision Programming said:

So you are now a outside installer for them. good to know. Do you install most of our products?

 

I am not a subcontractor for Inhouse, I don't sell enough licenses a year to justify being a re-seller. I trade my sales commission in for beer from the sales guy, and make my money on the install/hardware/service. 

I have done all the products, but no installs on MDM (I have done PDM just not since re-badging) and have done a few MDC installs.

34 minutes ago, Jay Kramer @ Precision Programming said:

Are you a Cimco re-seller by chance?

I worked for In-House for a number of years, a lot of Cimco was sold in the territory I covered so I was the "cimco guy" within the company as I had the most experience with it. I still install/Service Cimco but I pass the sales back to In-House, I bill the service/hardware, they collect on the software.

On 04/22/2017 at 4:14 AM, jlw™ said:

Unless I'm way off the "before" "with" and "after" refer to the output with the Z approach.   It will "M09" at the end of the unit regardless at force tool change and if you don't want force tool change but want to turn off coolant you do the M09 with "before" on the next unit. At least that works for me. 

Before, with, after refer to spindle on/off.

Depending on machine ofcourse

ie: through coolant/air can only be turned on before spindle on.  Flood before or after, not on the same line, etc.

I generally edit my post to use x style but no before/with/after option just hardcore the position based on machine requirements.

Im 95% sure you can set WCS to bottom will give you reverse cut direction. I have a sample file just not infront of my PC atm.

Correction 100% was bugging me so I went and checked

17 minutes ago, Jay Kramer @ Precision Programming said:

Codworx this fix is when you are running a standalone Cimco Editor and want to make it a default when you have a few installs of Mastercam versions.
You may have seen a video about this on youTube.

 

Not just for standalone, if you have a mastercam user who prefers a specific version of cimco this works also. I had no idea there was a video, just experience installing hundreds of cimco and mastercam. But for future I will email a link to the video.

Try renaming all cimcoedit.exe on your hdd except a working version you want to use. You will find the cimcoedit.exe in every version install of mastercam C:\programfiles\mastercamversion\common\editors\cimcoedit

This is a Windows association issue, and partially cimco fault for using the same executable name from version to version.

1 hour ago, 5th Axis CGI said:

Multi Axis Parallel in 3 Axis output and life is good.

This

19 hours ago, newbeeee said:

Just wondering - is this management happy with 12-16hrs or the owners?

Same guys

1 hour ago, Brad Lisle said:

Make sure you make the recommended holder specifications, that way if they opt to use crap ER collets instead of more expensive heat shrink, hydraulic or Lyndex-Nikken SK collet system this does not fall back on you. I would never use any ER collet for any endmill 1/4" or bigger. I tend to lean towards the SK collet system, they have a nice slim neck and nut diameter while holding the tool a heck of a lot better than any ER collet is possible of. If the nut diameter is of no concern for clearance the Hydraulic and if I need a holder to fit into tight spots (4 and 5 axis) then go with heat shrinkers for the best holding and clearance.

Oh i've told them, I went as far as to put proper holders and tools in on test, and the results were there, they still insist on using "What we have" which if far from optimal. Even though the test tools outperformed in both cost and time savings.

1 hour ago, 5th Axis CGI said:

Yes very important. Customer's will think they are saving some money going with cheaper holder and it ends up costing more in the long run not getting the right items to being with. Puts the contractor in a bad place when they try to be nice and work with the customer in those situations. Don't want to get what we ordered pay us for the work done and have a nice day.

I showed them a cost breakdown, they still wouldn't go for it. I wasn't even asking them to invest alot, I just wanted a few holders to almost double the throughput.

They are happy with the parts taking 12-16hours, even though I've done similar parts in other shops in around 6hours complete.

What model/sieres Fanuc?

On 2017-04-12 at 8:55 AM, Jay Kramer @ Precision Programming said:

We agree to with Ron. We carry the insurance to and back everything up. and the thought is to make this your mainstay is tough if your are need a constant income.
That is why I started offer other things and not making my only basket to pick from.

As a relatively new contractor, I knew going in half assing it was not the way to go. Startup costs are a lot (Software, Liability Insurance, WCB,  hardware, etc), and its a good 6months before you see any consistent return (Banker like Ron mentioned).

Offering other services is key (as per Jay) 20% of my work load is Programming, 40% are my other services, 40% unpaid work(Sales calls, invoicing, quoting, etc.)

I make sure programs are documented 100%, Setup sheets are provided, as well as detailed written instructions, and pictures/screenshots.

I just split material cost with a customer for a scrapped part to keep them happy. The operator didn't tighten a collet and tool pulled out, 100% not my fault but since I was working on the project fingers were pointed. After double checking the code, I didn't even re-post just tightened the collet correctly and the next part came out perfect.

I have been looking at verification software, but as of now the company cant afford the capital, maybe next year

I use it quite regularly in what you have commented on and have no problems using what it recommends. Had a job where Voluemill through Helical was calling out 1300 SFM on some hard metal and HSMadvisor on the same material went where I thought it should at 250 sfm. Been real nice to run the tool at 1300 sfm and cut a 27 hour roughing cycle down to 3 hours, but I will go with what HSMadvisor recommends and see the 40% reduction we have been looking at so far. Once we prove this process is a good direction then we are going to start to push it up until we see what the cost of tooling verse the reduction in run time balances out to.

Thanks for the input Ron

When you are using HSMA are you just inputting the Machine, tool, Cut Data, maybe tweaking sliders and going with Recommended speeds/feeds?

I find I waste more time looking up "recommended specs" and adjusting from there, then I do actually programming.

I'd be curious to see how far it got. Last time I saw it was summer of 2014. It didn't have anywhere near the power of Gibbs. The big draw back to this nethook was that it copied your groups, which made a mess, particularly if you ever needed to modify something. So if you programmed one part, with all tool paths inside one group, and you set the tombstone manager to make 100 pcs, the nethook would create 100 copied tool groups in your ops manager.

Yes it did do that, the team was supposed to revisit this, and give the option to output transformed operations insted of 100's of toolapths. No idea where it left off.

^^^ who dat?

 

One post, worked at InHouse?

Ray_D (not to be confused with RayD another regular on the forums)

I lost access to main forum account when I left IHS(tied to IHS email), and I have no idea what old email my original account was from so I created this one.

I should probably post this on HSMAdvisor web page, but I didn't want to create yet another forum account...

This product seems like a valuable tool, and a huge time saver, I know it gets a lot of praise from some regulars on this forum. And I have no problems buying a seat from Edgar to support his product.

I have generally always started with manufacturers Recommended values(max) and adjust accordingly based on experience/machine/material/fixture. This product seems like it will help me narrow down final values with less on machine testing.

I understand the concept, but my questions are with the functionality/use.

Do you start with Manufacturers Recommended Cutting conditions and play with the sliders to define optimal cut? Or just define the cut/material/machine and go with what the software creates for Speed/feed?

How well does this product perform with High performance solid carbide? There is a huge variety of technology behind different manufacturers ideas of a HP solid. Hitachi/OSG, have some crazy good endmills that I have never found a comparable for in performance/life.

TYIA

When I worked at Inhouse I had the development team create an addon for one of my customers that handled tombstone machining similar to Gibbs product. I don't know where it ever ended up, as I ended up leaving IHS before it finalized. I did however play with a "beta" and it did what it needed.