NCI2APT C-HOOK

[fatboy3]

Question, Must I purchese this C-Hook before I'm able to run ProE converters???? Or does some one have a nother idea!!!

[cadcam]

Why would you have to buy that C-hook to use the Pro-E convertor?

 

But you do need to buy the update from your dealer for the Pro-E.

[fatboy3]

I need to convert MasterCam files to C/L files

[CNCme]

Good EvE,

 

UG also creates a APT type file before you

can convert to (or see ) the nc code...??

 

WHAT is the purpose for that...???

 

The guy I worked with, would look at the

APT code to check Things Before creating

the NC code...I don't understand...??

 

Does any body know about this?

TonyG

[CNCme]

Good Ev,

 

One more thing... I don't see the nci2apt

C-hook... where is it...?

 

TonyG

[cadcam]

Tony it is an add-on from a third party.

 

quote:

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I need to convert MasterCam files to C/L files

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Ok so what does this have to do with the Pro-e converter then?

 

You are not making much sense.you are jumping back and forth.

every thing you want to do can be done but as a add-on.

[CNCme]

Good E,

 

Jay can you answer my Question ( Or can any

Unigraphics user ) on the extra step for

APT file...??

 

TonyG

[d0gFartz]

He wants to know if theres any other chooks or other options to create an ncl file that gets run thru a post that converts it to siemens language,not standard g code....nci2apt is it as far as i know.......its for a machine thats like 1 of 3 in the world

[cadcam]

Some of the old timers trust apt for every thing . so he is reading the Apt file for errors then is going to post that and hope his apt to gcode post is right.

Instead of say using a Varification software to check the gcode then there is no worry.

[d0gFartz]

No....it doesnt run code like were used to,its a entire different animal,supposedly siemens doesnt have anyone AE`s in america here that know how to run it either the way the manufacturer has it set up......its an Austrian built deal and they dont have anyone they say that knows g code....they refer to g code as fanuc language... so they built off this siemens language that only they know.....they have there own post that converts an ncl to there language so they can get an ncl from any cam system and be able to post it

[CNCme]

Good Ev again,

 

I understand that he thinks he needs to look

at the APT, but skip the APT and look at the

NC...ITS the same but better. He checks the

same things all the rest of us check but he

uses an an un-needed step...AND he thinks

Unigraphics is the Greatest NC code

generating program ever.

 

TonyG

[d0gFartz]

quote:

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I understand that he thinks he needs to look

at the APT, but skip the APT and look at the

NC...ITS the same but better.

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Not when the manufacturer doesnt set the machine up to run that way and can not even tell you what the nc code should look like if it was set up to read it......theres 2 modes on the control Seimens & ISO,its setup for siemens and thats all the manufacturer understands

[CNCme]

Goodly,

 

I think we got off on two diff. discussions

The UG generated "APT" that "UG Guy" is using

Is only used on fanuc based controls...After

he Looks at the APT, and it looks OK, he

Gen's basic NC G-code that any Facuc control

uses. Our mach's only use fanuc controls.

He was very mad when I brought MC to the

company an showed how easy and fast it was.

 

TonyG

[kwolf]

Hi,

 

Just an opinion, IMS Post can read APT (General/UG/ProE/Catia/...) as well as many CAM intermediate CL files including Mastercam NCI and produce GCodes. One can set up customized machines and controllers. Then post process APT or NCI for any existing machine. Also there's an ISO to APT (as reverse post) available.

 

Hope that helps

[fatboy3]

Steve;

What or who gave you the notion that no one know's this language Other then the Austrians? Siemens is a world class company that has world class drives and controls. I went to school to learn this language. I understand it. Yes G290 Siemens language is very much different then anything us g-coders are use to seeing but like anything, once you're exposed to it, You learn to understand it.I've driven a lot of controls from Dynapath to Fanuc, from Mits to Mazatrol and all I want to see is how both options look.

[billystein]

if anyone is interested I have a post for apt.

it supports a few apt functions like circle and matrix. It works pretty good if anyone wants to try it .

[email protected]

[TheePres]

CNC, I worked with NCL guy who was great at verifying his APT source file, but could not read NC code if his life depended on it. He also made some killer 5-axis programs. We also used a system, NIT or NTI ?? that fed APT source files directly to NC machine without the need for posting NC code, the best feature on this system was that it allows for variable tool length, it recalculates on the fly without needing to repost.

[Jack Mitchell]

TheePres,

 

APT was a dead horse twelve years ago, and it’s still dead.

Why are we even discussing this?

 

Regards, Jack

[McRae]

Jack -

 

APT is alive and well all around the world and is out of the reach of productive 10 cent gear heads like us.

[TheePres]

APT might be dead in kiddie-land but trust me Aerospace still relies on that language extensively. MC will eventually rid us of that monster I agree. But discussing because a fellow member has a need for it.

 

[ 12-12-2002, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: TheePres ]

[P_Scott]

To All,

 

Let's not quarrel over the usefulness for APT or other CAM systems. A fellow forum member, and therefore Mastercam user, has a need for the NCI2Apt c-hook. The secondary question is if this is needed for the Pro-E converter. The NCI2APT takes the NCI data and translates it into APT data. The Pro-E converter is used to import a Pro-E ".prt" file into Mastercam to generate toolpaths (or NCI data). I hope this helped answer your question fatboy3. HTH

[fatboy3]

Thank you all for your responce to my inquiry. I will be more spacific with the reason for my question, Our machine is a 7 axes, (5 axes live) Weingartner millturn center. It uses a Siemens 840D control and drives. The post processor language is based on the pro-E c/l file. This post processor sends high level "statment comands. In order to optomize this post, the drawing needs to be translated to the c/l format.I wish you all and your families a Very Merry Christmas and a Prosperous new year.

[billystein]

apt post available for trial.

outputs 5-axis apt.

uses tracut with tplane.

use circle or disable.

it works good but it may not be complete.

with good feedback maybe we can finish it

[McRae]

Pro/E Gpost users see here

 

Gpost Mastercam NCI Posting

 

This will allow you to use existing posts with Mastercam

 

[ 01-17-2003, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: Andrew McRae ]