1.75 or 2.0 face mill, 11.1 inch reach, CAT40?

[Joe788]

Anybody got any suggestions?

 

I need to reach 11.1 deep. I'd really prefer 1.75 rather than 2 inch, because the feature being cut has a 1.0 radius, and I'm quite sure it's not going to like hitting a full radius hanging out a foot.

 

11.1 is the actual reach, so the total gage length will need to be closer to 12.  We use all Mitsubishi stuff here, but I can't seem to find a 10 inch face mill arbor. I was thinking a stack of Sandvik Capto adapters with some ungodly expensive Sandvik facemill on the end?

 

BTW - I need to order in the next 3-4 hours, so we can have it tomorrow.

[Guest]

Lydex

 

C4046-1000-9.00 Ext. Length 1” 9.00” - - 2.36” - S3/4-16X11/16 (2

 

http://www.lyndexnikken.com/images/files/EndMillHolder_CAT2011-TC.pdf

 

AB Tools

 

http://www.abtoolsinc.com/pdf/AB_Tools_Inc_Catalog_2012.pdf

 

SH200-1

 

Not elegant but will reach

[robk]

Precision Components is another choice.

 

http://pctooling.com/parts/face-millshell-mill-extensions/

[Sticky]

If using a sidelok and then a long reach facemill with integral shank is out, then I would do a capto stack.

 

I had to do a 1" rad with a 2" tool about 10-12" out in 15-5PH on my 40 taper hmc, small cuts was the key to making it work.

[Joe788]

JP - That's the last ditch effort I'm trying to avoid.

 

Rob - PC is the first place we looked as well. Unfortunately they're just a smidge too short.

 

Dave - Luckily there isn't really any roughing. I can get to most of the features from the side, so this just has to finish face a large area and leave a sharp corner in a few places.

 

It's semiconductor industry - so like everything they make - the most challenging features aren't even related to the function or fit of the part. They're just there to troll the machine shops.

[Guest]

I hear you on the last ditch Joe

 

May be still too short

 

http://www.kennametal.com/en/products/20478624/2664259/42025689/42025693/54455536/100018534.html

 

 

http://www.kennametal.com/content/dam/kennametal/kennametal/common/ATI%20Metals/Stellram/Catalogs-Literature/Milling%20pdfs/Milling%20catalog/Stellram_milling_90degree_7690VAP16_inch.pdf

[Sticky]

Then capto dude, it isn't gonna be cheap but it will work.

[Joe788]

Just got a quote on the stack of capto holders and the 2 inch cutter body. Anybody wanna guess the total? LOL

[Sticky]

Based on a 10" reach stack I did back in May with a 2" R390 cutter

 

40 taper to capto adapter $311

extension- $312

reducing extension to fit 2" cutter $272

2" R390 body $451

Pack of ten inserts $190

J&M pull stud $30

 

So I'm gonna guess your cost was around $1566?

[MIL-TFP-41]

Capto stack is gonna hurt for sure. In a 40 taper not sure you have much of a choice.

 

Speaking of capto stacks.....

 

 

[Joe788]

$725 for the body, $175 for 10 inserts, $350x3 for 3 adapters, $500 for the CAT40 shank.  $2500.

[GoetzInd]

Yeah I would go capto. At least you will be able to use it on other projects in the future. Takes money to make money    Luckily we have a ton of it from our turning centers so all we needed to get was 40taper to C4. I know it's a tough pill to swallow when you'll only use it once in a blue moon on the milling side. 

 

Mike

[GoetzInd]

 

 

$350x3 for 3 adapters, $500 for the CAT40 shank.

Seems a littl steep on the capto stuff. Want to give my the p/n's and I can cross ref with our dist.? Sticky's pricing seems a little closer to what we are paying.

 

Mike

[Sticky]

$725 for the body, $175 for 10 inserts, $350x3 for 3 adapters, $500 for the CAT40 shank.  $2500.

 

Which body?

 

I am surprised your prices are so high, I thought for sure you would get better pricing.

 

These were my part numbers in order from what I mentioned above:

 

1pc        C5-390.55-40 070

1pc        C5-391.01-50 080A

1pc        C5-A391.05-19 070

1pc        RA390-051R19-11M

10pcs        R390-11 T3 08 E ML 1040

[Sticky]

Nice stack JMC

[Joe788]

1 each: RA590051R19S11M

10 each:

R590110504HNLH10

1 each:

C53910150100A

2 each:

C53910150080A

1 each:

C53904540050

 

Total was $2511.00

 

My distributor doesn't do Sandvik, so the quote is from a place I've never done business with.

 

$1500 is more along the lines of what I was expecting.

[Sticky]

Yikes. Have you tried DGI supply? They are pretty good on Sandvik pricing and delivery.

[Mic6]

Cut the check and buy yourself a pizza.

[Joe788]

Yikes. Have you tried DGI supply? They are pretty good on Sandvik pricing and delivery.

 

LOL yep that's who the quote is from.

 

I ended up ordering a 9 inch long PC Components 1 inch side lock holder, and a 1 inch shank, 2 inch diameter AB Tools shear hog.

[Sticky]

Crazy, pricing I gave was from DGI supply also, and those are CAD prices after the parts get imported into Canada. I can't believe they are gouging you like that.

 

Let us know how your setup works!

[Guest]

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[Guest]

Is DeeJay your sales guy for Sandvik?

[dstryr]

LOL yep that's who the quote is from.

 

I ended up ordering a 9 inch long PC Components 1 inch side lock holder, and a 1 inch shank, 2 inch diameter AB Tools shear hog.

ugh.

 

Only thing I buy from DGI is coolant btw.

Tool Technology should have best sandvik pricing?

[Sticky]

How did it work for you Joe?

[Mic6]

Pic of tool assembly?