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I went cheap... Brother 27k RPM with a Yukiwa 5axis table. Getting installed tomorrow.
I've been hammering on Grob USA to build a G150 but Zee Germans dont zee listen
Something to compete with Mikron HSM400u size parts... 40k rpm hsk40 etc. I've kind of backed myself into a corner only wanting Siemens controls on higher end machines...
Find a machine tool company you trust for good support / service and just add aftermarket automation. In my case I went with Grob ( I have 3 of their machines now... Gen 0 G350 120 tools, Gen 1 G350 200 tools, Gen 2 G550 330 tools) all being fed by Erowa robots of different sizes and capabilities.
16 machines total
6 5 axis machines, 1 500mm horizontal and the rest 3 axis verticals. 70% new parts 30% repeat work
Two of us handle all of it and its a xxxx show lol. We have to do 90% of the setup as well besides very simple 3 axis parts.
Could really use a third guy if anyone is from the bay area ....
Get an endmill and a block of material
Run G68.2 Cycle to A0C0
Position the tool in the +Y Axis
Side cut the block moving in X
Jump up and position back to the start X position
Use G68.2 to rotate the part 90* around Z. (A0 C90)
Repeat cut in X
Repeat this process until your block is cut
Go back to A0C0 and pick up center line using X
Then G68.2 the machine to A-90C0 and pick up the Z height of the block.
This should help you test your machine and find your problems.
Yes! Some grinding company sells a little bench top unit with an ER32 fixture that is meant for cut offs. It was like $3500 and I sent it back the day I opened it. POS.
I was just searching for this before I logged into this forum to see what was going on. Big market because of the shrink fit issues. Idk why shrink fit / tool grinders aren't in sync on this....
If you are programming at G54 and you have XYZ all set to 1.0 and run a G43.4 your control should adjust your 5 axis simultaneous moves to the correct position based on active work offset
I didnt think they were too outrageously priced? $115 for a 6mm and just under $200 for 12mm
I doubt any custom place will make them for close to that pricing in only 1-2 pcs
I have a 6mm,8mm,10mm, and 12mm sitting on my desk but like he said before... Everything is always a rush and havent had time to test them yet.
40xd in that size drill with 3000 rpm?
>.<
I run a production part with 1000 psi
Guhring Gundrill .058 2.250 deep no peck
Works great and I've gotten 1000 holes out of the same drill so far in 6061
I have a tool just like this... I wonder if I know what part you are making
Buy a 5/16 aircraft drill and have a grinding shop turn it into a step tool with a pilot and counterbore cutting on the bottom.
Yup.... I bought like 50 holders as well a couple weeks ago from this discount list lol. Got to love it when the little guys can score when the big guys get into fights!
You must have been the one who stole my cat40 order! haha
How is this old school and uncessary?
Let me give an example from my Grob.
Lets say I have a part with a big flange. Datum surfaces are under the flange.
I can program the machine off x0y0z0a0b0 for every job.
Then critical job comes up where you need to probe the datums. I cycle800 to a0b0, probe in Z on one wall set my Z offset. Retract Cycle800 to a0b90 probe in Z and set the X offset.
How does changing where my program comes off change this?
That is what I was getting to...
I program everything off COR. So if I want to measure a bore at B-90 then the probe results for the hole being off in XY would not go into XY. They would either be Y or Z because in reality the part is off location at b0c0
Thanks for your help .
You said "You just cant probe with W-sec or TCP active" but I dont see where you turn it off?
Is it too early and I'm missing something clearly obvious?
And if I'm reading correctly your probe results under the second move should update the X and Z offset and it wont try and fill in the Y value in the work cordinate?
Oh and if it makes you feel any better I helped a local buddy of mine make the decision to buy a new MX330 with the 10 pallet
What a tease....
lol
Any suggestions? I guess I'm just spoiled with the Siemens control being so much superior...
Probing at an angled position and having it update the offset in the correct way. Lots of production parts we do need to be probed from b-90 because there is no clearance from the top to touch datums. Think aerospace brackets.
I've been using Siemens 840d machine and 828 controls since I started doing 5th axis and I've always been able to probe results while under Cycle800.
I inquired about doing this on my new Yasda machine and the service rep didnt think it was possible. Is there a special way to do this or does renishaw not support this?
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