Backplotting existing code/Troubleshooting...

[Lord Wukits]

I'm running into issues with the post I am using for one of our machines, and was wondering if it was possible to import *.NC/*.PIM in mastercam (or Mastercam for Solidworks) to view the backplot. This way I can see/read what's going on.

I keep getting an error of 0044 "Incorrect Coordinates", and am uncertain if the X/Y placement is completely wrong, or if the issue is that "I: machine depth" is not programed. 

We've lost everyone who knows how to really run the machine, and only have operators that load and push buttons based on program number/tribal knowledge. 

 

If not, are there any suggestions that one can do to figure things out?

Thus far:
Machine is a MotionMaster SB-55XT

The layout is below (each box is 60" squared)
 

 

         O----------------    ---------------

+       |                  | |                    |
^       |                  | |                    |
X       |                  | |                    |
v       |                  | |                    |
-        ------------------  ----------------

          - < Y > +

Z + is heading up, - is heading towards the table.

 

Machine 0,0,0 (aka home) based on the 'O' on the bed is X 10, Y -10, Z 38. 



The programs were created by mastercam prior to losing both the computer(corrupt drive), and the one employee who knew how to program leaving.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.


Here is an old post;

 

 

N172; A = .25 X 1.575"(60-4400)

N174; B = .125 X 1"(60-4412)

N176 G5 G17 G40 G44 G53 G80 G91 F150 S18000 M04

N178 G90 G0 X10 Y70 Z-10 U10 B0 C0

N180 G77XU

N182 G92 X-10.7095 Y36.3904 Z22.8

N14 G0 X27.7485 Y87.2186 Z-.0875 B180

N186 G4K200

N188 G91

N16 G81 I-1.25

Another  program

N4; A = .375 X 1.575" (AMANA 42420)

N8 G5 G17 G40 G44 G53 G80 G91 F150 S18000 M03

N10 G90 G0 X10 Y70 Z-10 U10 B0 C0

N12 G77XU

N14 G92 X-10.7095 Y36.3904 Z22.8

N16 G00 X29.5511 Y51.4117 Z-.5

N18 G4K200

N20 G91

;N22 G51E.001

 

 

And here is what I am getting with the Resellers MD;

 

 

G0 G90 G17 G5 G70 G44 G94 F150 S1069 M3

G78

G53 Z-10.

G53 X10. Y50. U0. B0. C0.

; 1/2 FLAT ENDMILL   TOOL - 290  DIA. OFF. - 290  LEN. - 290  DIA. - .5

G54

G0 G90 X6.5 Y6.5 B0. C0.

Z6.

G82 G98 Z.625 R5.5 P5. F10.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Try NCPlot:

 

http://www.ncplot.com/

 

IIRC you get 15 days free to try it out.

 

Unfortunately if you've lost everyone who knew what was going on and your programs and setups have inadequate documentation, you basically have to get someone knowledgeable and have them either reconstruct what was being done or start over.

[Jayson Kramer]

Also our Cimco Pro editor . you can download the trial form here:

http://www.ppcadcam.com/products_cimco_list.html

[Teh Bear without Brains kinda idiot]

It would take me an hour max to get the problem solved

First of all take the deep breath

Then make a big mug of strong black coffee.

Then lit a cigarete or big fat cigar

Poetry helps too it teaches us immortal wisdom and guides us in right direction

 

 

They say an upset ostrich
Will stick its head in the ground.
That's no way to fix a problem.
It's not how solutions are found.

When something's not going right
And you wonder if life is fair,
Sticking your head in the ground
Will just get dirt in your hair.

 

I would write small program for one hole to drill in the air and test it changing one thing in a time to get it work

And I have done it lot of times

Hoping for some magic help out of nowhere is like to believe in Santa ,

Not hurts but would Santa help you ?

 

MY humble thoughts

PS not my poetry

BR

[Lord Wukits]

An hour you say?
That seems pretty nice,
We’ve had this issue

For at least a dozen fortnight.

The poetry was different, here's my Ballad
To tell you all about the conundrum I’ve had
You see we renewed our version of Mastercam,
Patiently working through the problems, with a simple plan.
 

You see I’m new to cad-cam since this July,

I’m willing to learn, so training I did try.

G-code is not so much a language as it is a form of art
But with my inexperience I don’t know where to start.

 

We do both routing and milling the percent of forty to sixty

Forcing the MCmilling to handle routing was also quite tricky.
From the renewal that motionmaster still would not run.
I’ve gotten to the point whereas I twiddle my thumb.

It appears the axes of X and Y someone flipped
But Z’s remained the same… no one has touched it.

I’m sure somewhere this can be fixed in the post.
So for help I came to this forum where it’d have the most.

 

Some guidance for editing the post, I didn’t want to push my luck
And be standing at broken machine thinking ‘what the Heck.’
 

[Jayson Kramer]

An hour you say?

That seems pretty nice,

We’ve had this issue

For at least a dozen fortnight.

 

The poetry was different, here's my Ballad

To tell you all about the conundrum I’ve had

You see we renewed our version of Mastercam,

Patiently working through the problems, with a simple plan.

 

You see I’m new to cad-cam since this July,

I’m willing to learn, so training I did try.

G-code is not so much a language as it is a form of art

But with my inexperience I don’t know where to start.

 

We do both routing and milling the percent of forty to sixty

Forcing the MCmilling to handle routing was also quite tricky.

From the renewal that motionmaster still would not run.

I’ve gotten to the point whereas I twiddle my thumb.

 

It appears the axes of X and Y someone flipped

But Z’s remained the same… no one has touched it.

I’m sure somewhere this can be fixed in the post.

So for help I came to this forum where it’d have the most.

 

Some guidance for editing the post, I didn’t want to push my luck

And be standing at broken machine thinking ‘what the Heck.’

 

Good reply,

Now lets see you are using Mastercam and have lost the Mastercam file correct so all you have is the code. you do not feel the code is correct true?

But at the same time you are not sure what the code should look like is this true to?

 

I see this is a gantry 5axis machine. look like you are just trying to cut a simple 2axis profile true again?

 

You are looking to see if we can help you get the right code?

 

Or are you trying to find a way to see the code in motion off the machine?

 

Or you want to know if you can bring the code back in to Mastercam to backplot the motion? Answer is no on this one.

 

Thanks

[Lord Wukits]

The old code works fine, but the trim fixtures are getting old, so we need to recut/route some new trim fixtures(a post process for vacuum molding).

I have no clue what the code should look like(only assumptions based on the old posts). At this point noting posted can get the machine to move.

I'm trying to route a 3d shape that we can use as our mold, and another duplicate as a trim fixture. I'll be happy with just a 2d profile and working the post up from that. The above post is just some basic 2/3d movements.

I'm not sure where to go from here, as we can't get the machine running at all. It errors out as an incorrect coordinate (0044). I've tried turning off the canned cycles off, thinking it was an incorrect I parameter. I've read that off the [naughty word]OR 8055 manual.

I was thinking/hoping that I could backplot the existing code, and figure out what each line was doing. Unfortunately I cannot find a way for Mastercam to backplot a NC file. I have HSMWorks, but all the old code is 4/5 axis and the free version doesn't handle more than 3 axis.

 

[ahaslam]

No backplotter will handle that code unless you get it from the machine manufacturer. This is proprietary NC code, kind of looks like Siemens but defiantly not your standard code . Their are so many things wrong with your post I don't even know where to begin. G53 vs G54, M3 vs M4 (that one might be on you), The old code calls out a G44 in a G40 line? Yeah, lots to fix. I think you are going to be down for a bit.

 

Are you sure you can't pull the old post from the old hard drive?

 

 

P.S. Slap your reseller.

[ahaslam]

You know come to think of it, it may have something to do with the fact you are using a G54 in your programs and not the G53. . . nah, It's never that easy.

[Jayson Kramer]

No backplotter will handle that code unless you get it from the machine manufacturer. This is proprietary NC code, kind of looks like Siemens but defiantly not your standard code . Their are so many things wrong with your post I don't even know where to begin. G53 vs G54, M3 vs M4 (that one might be on you), The old code calls out a G44 in a G40 line? Yeah, lots to fix. I think you are going to be down for a bit.

 

Are you sure you can't pull the old post from the old hard drive?

 

 

P.S. Slap your reseller.

Yep if it is Siemens you will not be able to do this.

Review picture.

 

Then then other picture look at this code have fun reading.

 

There is some truth to what you say but Cimco does support some of these off the wall codes.