Windows 10 or Windows 7

[Justin Beebe at Folsom Tool]

I"m purchasing a new laptop and I have the option between Windows 10 and Windows 7.  I was previously running Mastercam 2018 on another laptop with Windows 10 and I had to reinstall Mastercam twice after Windows 10 updated itself because Mastercam would no longer open.  Other than that I think Mastercam worked well with windows 10.   I would prefer windows 10 and to me it sounds odd to buy a new computer without the latest operating system but I never had to reinstall Mastercam with windows 7.   Is anyone else experiencing this issue with windows 10.  Any thoughts or recommendations on this subject are greatly appreciated.  

[gcode]

2 minutes ago, Justin Beebe at Folsom Tool said:

Is anyone else experiencing this issue with windows 10

yes.. I like Win 10, but it's automatic update policy has caused many people lots of trouble

The current latest greatest will ender Mastercam completely inoperable.

You can not set Win10 update to postpone updates, which I've done.

Hopefully all the issues will be resolved by the time I'm forced to update

[Justin Beebe at Folsom Tool]

gcode,

Do you mean you can now set windows 10 to postpone updates or can not set windows 10 to postpone updates?

[Guest]

Win10 a bad idea if you do any ITAR or like work

[Justin Beebe at Folsom Tool]

Jp is that because its easy to steal information from systems running Windows 10?

[Guest]

Read this

 

 

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Newer is not always better.

[Justin Beebe at Folsom Tool]

Interesting I may go with windows 7. I'm going to research some computers now.

[Newbeeee™]

2 hours ago, Matthew Hajicek™ - Conventus said:

Newer is not always better.

Luddite...

[specv]

23 hours ago, JParis said:

Win10 a bad idea if you do any ITAR or like work

John,

Do you have any more info on this? I know Office 365 is an Itar no-no. but the Operating system too?

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Windows 10 is designed as a cloud based OS, and is becoming more so with every update.  When you search it's not a local process; everything is run through Microsoft's servers.  An undisclosed but significant amount of your data is send to Microsoft servers; the EULA even says they will send your data, including but not limited to emails, files, keyboard input etc. to Microsoft servers.  A significant portion of these servers are physically located outside the US, which means sending ITAR information to them is a federal offense.  There are some "privacy settings" and "telemetry settings" which disable some of these functions, but they are not completely effective.  Tests have shown that even with everything disabled that can be disabled the OS is still sending out a lot of data to out-of-country Microsoft servers.

[Watcher]

Someone, I think Orvie, posted recently about a Microsoft solution for ITAR environments. But it's a pain in the xxxx. 

[specv]

Thanks Matt, I do find it hard read through all the EULA stuff and understand what they are getting at with the data they use. ITAR is technical data and i don't know why Microsoft would even want traces of data like that on their servers for fear of having repercussions from the US government. 

[Justin Beebe at Folsom Tool]

I decided to go with windows 7.  Thank you everyone for the replies.  The information on ITAR was extremely helpful. Here are the rest of the specs. I went with the 15.6 inch display because I'm tired of lugging a 17 inch laptop around.

 

 

Intel Core i7-6820HQ (Quad Core 2.70GHz, 3.60GHz Turbo, 8MB 45W, w/Intel HD Graphics 530), MPWS

32GB (4x8GB) 2133MHz DDR4 Memory, MPWS

256GB 2.5 inch SATA Solid State Drive, MPWS

Nvidia Quadro M2000M w/4GB GDDR5

15.6" FHD(1920x1080) Anti-Glare LED-backlit (45% color gamut)