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this is exactly what i am asking about, where or how does one get that experience? The whole concept is really new to us and we have a lathe guy on the machine with 25+ years of lathe experience working on it. but that higher level of "oh you can do this or that with this new machine" is what we need to find. Where do i get this "someone" we have had recruiters (at least 10) looking for us and the resume's are week at best.
We don't have a problem paying for it. We worked with one of the top AE's for Okuma and he helped a little. I do think it way above normal operator training though. That's why I'm asking what everyone does when they need higher level training. We have been told by many machine builders that we do things that most shops can't or never need to do.
Gcode hit the nail on the head, we need someone with the machine experience so that we know the the machine is doing what its supposed to do. That makes the post editing easier (the post is near post and go already)
Except for we are using Topsolid, The CAM programming side is not really the issue, I can teach that, its knowing the capabilities/codes of the machine itself, and even the type of machine(multi-tasking 5 axis)
All,
I am in need of some advice, we have an Okuma multus u3000 and we have been looking for a programmer or at least a set-up machinist with more knowledge of the machine. We have been unable to locate someone. What I would like to know is what is the best way to get someone up to speed quickly in programming and set-up. We have been working with our reseller and the main Okuma office and even they are struggling with some 5 axis toolpath/code.
Here is our goto for small diameter milling when runout is an issue.
https://www.bigkaiser.com/en/products/tool-holders/collet-chucks/mega-micro-chucks
We use Mueller gages as general rule, but when we need something economical we have been using these, with a ring gage to use as a master they are very accurate.
I move notes all the time, once you create a note with a leader you can move it based on the point it was attached to (like a point or quadrant of an arc).
What is the GH number on the taps you are purchasing? We cut 3B threads all the time and order our taps accordingly. The pitch changes .0005 for each GH number.
Doug, You know my vote would be the Makino, even though we just bought the Kitamura's. The major reason we didn't buy Makino's last time was the limit in x stroke. With small parts the a61 should be good for you, I would look at the tall column though, it just gives you more y stoke if you are loading up a tombstone with parts.
We made 1000's of gun slides out of it @ 35 rc its cuts awesome, guessing it might be a little gummy @ 28-32? all mill tooling was Hanita, Fullerton, Helical, or Walter TiAlN coated and roughing was cut dry but finished with coolant. We ran about 500-600 SFM. It is magnetic and will rust also.
We have MSC's system and we love it, always check prices, MSC's prices are better than most but its not well known because the website does not show the prices you pay if you have an agreement with them. We typically pay 30-50% less than the numbers on their site. The other nice thing is that you can use their cabinets for tools that you didn't even purchase from them.
This is where we send our parts for thermal deburring (explosion)
https://www.arrowcryogenics.com/deburring-deflashing/thermal-deburring
It is very violent though, if the walls are thick and there can be some handling damage it's fine. But we tried it on some very thin medical parts and while it does work we did lose some parts in the process.
We bought 2 HX500g's last year and there were some issues up front with the install, and tolerances, but we had Kitamura service ball bar test and tweak them and now they are really accurate, they are more rigid than our Makinos. We have 314 tools on each and 8 pallet pools on them. HSK63a 20k spindles.
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