6 hours ago, cncappsjames said:

The most straightforward definition of kinematic awareness is that the software/post knows the rotary configuration of the machine and limitations (not just axis limits) of the particular kinematic.

Typically when you program a part you need to create a plane in the correct orientation so the post outputs the correct orientations. With CAMplete, I only care about Z. Make sure Z is the correct direction and I'm good. 

Vector programming... meh. I can take it or leave it personally. JM2CFWIW 

I've had the luxury of kinematic awareness for a few years now *cough*.  It makes a big difference to the programming workflow

Interesting topic

56 minutes ago, gcode said:

you didn't read my post carefully

When you bundle different suites onto a standalone USB hasp you get a discount because it's all on one hasp and is really a single license with multiple components

Only one user at a time can use the USB Hasp

if you break the USB hasp out into a nethasp, they claw the discount back, because what was one USB license, is now 2 or 3 stand alone nethasp  licenses

that can be used simultaneously by multiple users.

… and you are correct

Jaws does come calling .. and you will need a bigger boat  checkbook

I did read it correctly.  One might get told there is a discount, when bundling on a USB hasp, but there isn't... in at least this region

Jaws does come calling, but some sharks have a bigger bite than the rest of them

7 minutes ago, gcode said:

People typically buy a seat of Lathe and Mill on a USB hasp

When they do that they get a discount, because only one user at a time can use the hasp and the software it enables

When you break them out and put them on a nethasp, you have to give the discount back because  2 users can use the software

when it's licensed via nethasp.

We had 3 USB hasps with 3Dmill/ Lathe /Mulitaxis that we broke out and put on a nethasp.

Unwinding the discount came to a pretty good chuck of $$$

Something to consider if you are thinking about breaking up a multilicence USB hasp and putting on a nethasp. 

A discount? LOL, maybe for you guys over there

Down here, moving to a NetHasp means getting a visit from Jaws...  cue Cellos...

On 12/24/2019 at 7:03 AM, gcode said:

Does Top Solid have a Prime module now, or did you old school it??

It isn't a Prime Module, it is just a function within the rough turning. Basically controlling the entry.

The finishing is multi directional. I did have a play around with the Mastercam prime module a while back, to see what all the fuss was about.

As for the Sandvik Product (The Prime Code Generator), I've been looking at getting a license to test it. I work closely with the local Sandvik representative (they gave me the tool for this test).

11 hours ago, Bill Craven said:

How did you program it, if not with Mastercam?

Just curious.

Hi Bill, a fair question. *cough* Top *cough* Solid *cough* 

Talk to CGTech. They are very knowledgeable about force, and they'll happily do a Force application for you.

Reviving an old thread

I just ran a test of Sandvik Prime turning. 300m/min, 1mm/rev feedrate, 4mm (on diameter) depth of cut, and 3mpa chuck pressure. Turning away from the chuck, without a tailstock support, and not using gripper jaws. Machine is an Okuma U3000-1500 2SW

Worked really well, and I will be doing some more testing in the new year. The chips came off perfect. The dwells and slow lead in were because I was videoing, and single blocking.

I'll run a better sample in January. Summer holidays kick in about 1 hour (woohoo )

And it wasn't using Mastercam.

16 hours ago, David Colin said:

I can't make my 'discontinued' Spacepilot work with Vericut V9... Anyone knows what to try?

I'm using 3DxWare 10.4.3 driver which is the last working release.

I had the same problem when beta testing V9, with my Spacemouse Wireless. I downloaded and installed 3DxWare64_v10-6-3_r3045 and it fixed the problem.

I had Wintool demoed to me a few years back. I was really impressed with its capabilities. I also have a customer with a TDM and a Zoller, and that works well with Vericut for them.

I agree with Colin, contact Daniel, as he has a bunch of knowledge on this.

58 minutes ago, 5th Axis CGI said:

Mine is wrinkled and got some scars if that comes close enough.

Indeed, we all have scars from getting to where we are now

8 hours ago, 5th Axis CGI said:

Never Mike your not that kind of person. I was making a bad joke.

Besides I know you understand this stuff like the back of your hand.

The back of my hand is a little hairy, and worn out. Does that signify anything?

9 hours ago, 5th Axis CGI said:

Does it make me a geek that I got it and have explained it almost word for word to people? 

I hope you don't think that was aimed at you Ron. Because it wasn't. Though I get the impression I was taking a dig at you. But I wasn't...

I just thought that image was funny in general.

You bought an Okuma David?

I have the models of a MB56VA, but not a Mastercam Machine Sim model.

Call your reseller?

LOL, that was quick

Good timing on the thread. I'm looking at a new HP ZBook mobile workstation, and trying to decide between an i9 and Xeon processor.

Max of 64Gb ram.

Currently running an i7, with 64Gb of ram, so I'm guessing the i9 would be a better bet.

1 hour ago, mkd said:

does it still have the' refine display' button?

Yes it does. But it doesn't get a lot of use

I typically only use the Machine/Cut Stock view in V9, and constantly change the view to requirements using the spacemouse.

2 hours ago, gcode said:

an understatement.... the difference is night and day

I'm am understated type of person...

Vericut 9 is planned to be released before the end of the year. I'm currently beta testing it. In fact, I'm using it "in production" as I have found it to be pretty stable. A few minor glitches for me so far.

I really like V9. A big improvement

Back in the dim dark days of Okuma, before tool setters on the machine, this method was the standard practice. This was well before the days of PC's and Mid Auto Manual as well (I'm talking the OSP2200 control and paper tape days).

But nowadays, there is definitely no need for that, especially on a control as powerful as the P300.

Does anyone check post dates? The OP posted this in 2000, and hasn't visited since.

Your chances of a response from them are pretty remote.

6 hours ago, Metallic said:

I have hosted a VUE and plan to host another, and Vericut v9 was demo'ed to us back in April. Looks like most of the upgrades/updates they are offering is the exact reason why I was considering switching to NCSimul. However, NCSimul in my context is approximately 10 times more expensive, even with a discount. CGTech offers a much more attractive pricing structure for us, including maintenance. CGTech also told users in that VUE that V9 would be released by September, so.....

I think I will wait to see what V9 has to offer before reconsidering the alternatives.

As I primarily use it for simultaneous 5-axis, I am not sold on CAMplete and other softwares that may or may not simulate and emulate machines accurately with the actual g-code. I really don't mind having to post from Mastercam and loading into the verification software. WYSIWYG

 

Thanks all for the input!

 

Edit: As a side note, is there a Mastercam 2020 C-Hook for vericut yet?

 

I'm currently beta testing Vericut V9, and all I can say, is that the graphics are definitely improvement. As I type this I am currently running a hefty simulation, and the difference is plain to see.

30 minutes ago, David Colin said:

I just went to french Vericut VUE and I heard that Vericut is not really written in Java but mainly in C. Java would be used for GUI.

I could looked at V9 deeper and graphical improvements are outstanding (sections, appearances, transparency, same quality in machine view and part view, ability to dynamically change view during animation,... ). A cgtech engineer told it's now OpenGL 4.5 vs OpenGL 1 in V8.

Should be released at the end of the year. I can't wait^^   

So, it looks like your question has been answered

There have been some major improvements in V9, and yes, it is looking good.