RIGID TAPPING ALARM IN WSEC, SP0740/SP0741

[TONY_B]

Hi,

I have tried using WSEC for the first time, it started off well but I have now hit a wall. 

A bit of background. We have a Matsuura MX330 G-Tech 31i , we run 10 parts on one pallet using one Work Offset (G57), the parts are doweled in position but these positions are not 100% correct nor are the mating faces. So I have opted to use WSEC to try and overcome this issue.

I have been able to take the original  program and just add WSEC. The program started off fine in the first plane and fine in the second until it came to tapping in the second plane. 

The first plane has been milled, drilled, and tapped. The second plane has been milled and drilled. Then I have the error.

I have tried changing Para 5213 from 2.00 to 0.50. 

I have started at Z84.131 before the G84 command to give a little more clearance before it starts.

 

Below are my WSEC and Work Offset values and both the new program (WSEC) and the original program (NO WSEC).

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

Tony

G57 X-179.966 Y-175.006 Z-457.085 A0 C344.960

#26040 = -0.0045 (X shift)

#26041 = 0.0325 (Y shift)

#26042 = -0.0345 (Z shift)

#26043 = -0.00467 (A rot)

#26044 = -0.00286 (B rot)

#26045 = 0.01647 (C rot)

 

• WSEC ON

N14T14M6(#4-40 UNC HELICOIL HSS STRAIGHT FLUTED)
M1
G17 
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 (WSEC OFF) 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C90.0(CUBE  LEFT)
G131
G54.4P4(WSEC ON G57)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I90.0J-90.0K0.0
G53.1 
M131
M8
G0G90X-65.738Y-130.64 
G43Z74.131H14S300M3T1 
G95 
M80S300 
G84G99X-65.738Y-130.64Z61.748R74.131F0.635
X32.052 
G80G94
(INDEX OPERATION) 
Z300.0
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 (WSEC OFF) 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C180.0(CUBE  FRONT)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I180.0J-90.0K0.0 
G53.1 
M131
M5
M9
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 (WSEC OFF) 
G0G90G53Z0.0
G0G90G53X-435.0Y-465.0

G65P9866(TOOL BREAK CHECK)

G130
M1

• NO WSEC

N14T14M6(#4-40 UNC HELICOIL HSS STRAIGHT FLUTED)
M1
G17 
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C90.0(CUBE  LEFT)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I90.0J-90.0K0.0
G53.1 
M131
M8
G0G90X-65.738Y-130.64 
G43Z74.131H14S300M3T1 
G95 
M80S300 
G84G99X-65.738Y-130.64Z61.748R74.131F0.635
X32.052 
G80G94
(INDEX OPERATION) 
Z300.0
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C180.0(CUBE  FRONT)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I180.0J-90.0K0.0 
G53.1 
M131
M5
M9
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 
G0G90G53Z0.0
G0G90G53X-435.0Y-465.0

G65P9866(TOOL BREAK CHECK)

G130
M1

[Leon82]

300rpm should be fine

Try an m89 instead of m80 and see if it works.

 

our machine would hang up we had to change a parameter to use the g54.4

[Leon82]

It's also possible it can't correct the error physically.

[crazy^millman]

4 hours ago, TONY_B said:

Hi,

I have tried using WSEC for the first time, it started off well but I have now hit a wall. 

A bit of background. We have a Matsuura MX330 G-Tech 31i , we run 10 parts on one pallet using one Work Offset (G57), the parts are doweled in position but these positions are not 100% correct nor are the mating faces. So I have opted to use WSEC to try and overcome this issue.

I have been able to take the original  program and just add WSEC. The program started off fine in the first plane and fine in the second until it came to tapping in the second plane. 

The first plane has been milled, drilled, and tapped. The second plane has been milled and drilled. Then I have the error.

I have tried changing Para 5213 from 2.00 to 0.50. 

I have started at Z84.131 before the G84 command to give a little more clearance before it starts.

 

Below are my WSEC and Work Offset values and both the new program (WSEC) and the original program (NO WSEC).

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

Tony

G57 X-179.966 Y-175.006 Z-457.085 A0 C344.960

#26040 = -0.0045 (X shift)

#26041 = 0.0325 (Y shift)

#26042 = -0.0345 (Z shift)

#26043 = -0.00467 (A rot)

#26044 = -0.00286 (B rot)

#26045 = 0.01647 (C rot)

 

• WSEC ON

N14T14M6(#4-40 UNC HELICOIL HSS STRAIGHT FLUTED)
M1
G17 
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 (WSEC OFF) 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C90.0(CUBE  LEFT)
G131
G54.4P4(WSEC ON G57)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I90.0J-90.0K0.0
G53.1 
M131
M8
G0G90X-65.738Y-130.64 
G43Z74.131H14S300M3T1 
G95 
M80S300 
G84G99X-65.738Y-130.64Z61.748R74.131F0.635
X32.052 
G80G94
(INDEX OPERATION) 
Z300.0
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 (WSEC OFF) 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C180.0(CUBE  FRONT)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I180.0J-90.0K0.0 
G53.1 
M131
M5
M9
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 (WSEC OFF) 
G0G90G53Z0.0
G0G90G53X-435.0Y-465.0

G65P9866(TOOL BREAK CHECK)

G130
M1

• NO WSEC

N14T14M6(#4-40 UNC HELICOIL HSS STRAIGHT FLUTED)
M1
G17 
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C90.0(CUBE  LEFT)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I90.0J-90.0K0.0
G53.1 
M131
M8
G0G90X-65.738Y-130.64 
G43Z74.131H14S300M3T1 
G95 
M80S300 
G84G99X-65.738Y-130.64Z61.748R74.131F0.635
X32.052 
G80G94
(INDEX OPERATION) 
Z300.0
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 
M132
G57G0A-90.0C180.0(CUBE  FRONT)
G68.2X0.0Y0.0Z0.0I180.0J-90.0K0.0 
G53.1 
M131
M5
M9
G49 
G69 
G54.4P0 
G0G90G53Z0.0
G0G90G53X-435.0Y-465.0

G65P9866(TOOL BREAK CHECK)

G130
M1

Are you using CAMPlete? Is threadmilling an option to get the parts done while you sort this out? 

[MIL-TFP-41]

We had the same problem with our 330's. Is the attached pic the alarm that comes up?

It was really odd and frustrating, a Y axis alarm during a tap cycle when values were in the WSEC table.

In our case it was a Fanuc issue that was resolved with a software update.

 

[Colin Gilchrist]

Hi Tony,

Where are you located? 

[cncappsjames]

I seem to recall this issue... lemme dig through my e-mails. 

[cncappsjames]

Yep. Found it. It's a FANUC Software issue. 

 

PM me with your machine serial number and I can out you in touch with the people that can get you squared away. 

[crazy^millman]

56 minutes ago, cncappsjames said:

Yep. Found it. It's a FANUC Software issue. 

 

PM me with your machine serial number and I can out you in touch with the people that can get you squared away. 

Glad you back sir!!!!!!!!!!!!