X6 Tool Parameters Bug on a Tap?

[Rotary Ninja]

I saved a list of tools to a tool library and am using the same M3 x .5 tap that I've used on 3 part programs. In the tool library this tool is set to G84. On all three parts this tool has changed to a G81 in the tool parameters when I import it into my program, and in turn, the toolpaths I've used it in. I come in to work this morning and create a second op in a program I have already fixed this issue in and it again reverts back to a G81 in the tool parameters and in the toolpath I created, But this time there were also a bunch of $$$$$$$$$$$$ in the peck 2 (%dia) text field for some reason. My co-worker said since X6 he has been experiencing the same thing with the G84 switching to a G81 and has actually scrapped a part because he didn't catch it. I have MU2, he is running X6 with no maintenance updates installed yet.

[uncle_dolan]

I he is running X6 with no maintenance updates installed yet.

 

I am not running X6 myself yet, but for everything I have read...this sounds very dangerous!

[Thee Rickster ™]

Try locking the feed rates in the config file before importing, then set it

after wards, i have a few issues that this fixes that has nothing to do with feed rates.

[Rotary Ninja]

Well, I was able to reproduce the problem, but I am not at work now to try your suggestion. Here is what I did to reproduce the problem...

 

I created a temp library and saved the tap into that library. Here the tool shows in the Temp library it is set to a G84:

 

It also shows after importing it it is still set to G84:

 

I use it in a toolpath and it is still G84:

 

Save the file and re-open it and it has switched to a G81:

 

Will locking the feedrates solve this? I will try it tomorrow and get back with you.

 

Thanks.

[Cannon]

I have seen the same thing http://www.emastercam.com/board/index.php?showtopic=69720&hl=

[Rotary Ninja]

Locking the toolpath does not solve this problem. I locked the toolpaths, then opened files that use taps. They revert back to G81. Not good!

[Thee Rickster ™]

Thats drag, at best you can send the bug in so CNC can make sure it is fixed in

X7

[Rotary Ninja]

I just imported a 1/4"-28 tap and went through the same process of saving, closing, and re-opening the file and the 1/4"-28 tap did not change to a G81, but the M3 x .5 tap did. I tried re-importing the M3 tap and it still changes to a G81 after re-opening.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Try creating a new one and saving it, then import it.

maybe that tool is corrupt?? shot in the dark

[Rotary Ninja]

I think I already tried that. But now it's doing it with my M4 tap as well.

[Thad]

It's a shot in the dark but try reloading your machine definition. That fixes weird things sometimes.

[Rotary Ninja]

I created a new M3 tap and saved back into my tool library and I am still able to generate this problem. I never once saw this in X5. I contacted Mitch at Cad-Cam tech and he said he can't seem to regenerate the problem. I can go to another workstation with a completely different tool library and recreate this.

 

I created a brand new tap and saved it to my library. Then I created a tapped hole toolpath and imported this tap, saved it. Re-opened it and it was still set to a G84. Delete the toolpath, delete the tool from the program, and re-import the same tool again and re-create the tapped hole toolpath again. Save the file. Re-open, and get a G81 setting on the tool again. This seems to be somewhat random with the new tool where before it was every time I saved the file.

 

Anybody else able to re-create this problem besides me and Cannon?

[Rotary Ninja]

This is funny... I just went to create a new tap AGAIN... I set the tool number and diameter. Went to the parameters page and set the feed, coolant, and offsets. I set it to G84. I went back to the first tab to check to make sure my diameter was set right, then back to the parameters tab and the G84 changed back to a G81. Set it back to a G84 and switch tabs again and it switches back to a G81. I thought maybe this was happening when creating a tool so I made absolutely sure the tool saved as a G84 before closing and restarting Mastercam and voila... G81 again.

[gcode]

am I correct in assuming this is only happening with metric taps... in an English setup

[Rotary Ninja]

So far, that's all I've seen bug out on me. But I've been using metric taps the last few days.

[Rotary Ninja]

am I correct in assuming this is only happening with metric taps... in an English setup

 

No, it just happened on a 10-32 tap as well.

[Rotary Ninja]

Bumping this topic back up because I see cincy k is having the same issue...

http://www.emasterca...showtopic=71397