wedm

[charlie]

Thinking of purchasing wedm, Currently run Mastercam6.

Looking for input on what brand to look into.

 

Thanks,

Charlie

[Del.]

Several good one out there. Fanuc, Agie,Makino. I would choose from those 3 myself. I use fanucs and love them. Best threader on the market imo.

[shazam/TPP]

+1 what Del said

 

1. Fanuc

2. Makino (cost more than fanuc)

3. agie, charmilles, or sodick

[Brad St.]

What are you looking to do, production vs proto-types? We have Makino's and Charmilles here and they both have their advantages / disadvantages.

[Oppiz]

I run Mitsubishi .. you can't beat the accuracy

[Del.]

I run Mitsubishi .. you can't beat the accuracy

 

How long have you had the Mitz Oppiz?

[Del.]

If I was buying one I would look for these things in no particular order.

 

1 Wire threader reliability

2 How often wear parts have to be replaced and the cost

3 Accuracy needed for your specific applications

4 XYZ Travel

5 Service history from seller

6 Mastercam compatible

7 Friendly Controller

[charlie]

We work with very small parts. Tolerances are tight. Within tenths. Prototype to small quanities of the same part. Repeatability would be eccentical.

[Del.]

We work with very small parts. Tolerances are tight. Within tenths. Prototype to small quanities of the same part. Repeatability would be eccentical.

 

All of those mentioned will be within .00015/side easily. If you plane on using different dias. of wire then the Charmilles or Agies will be better since their guides accept several diffent wire sizes . The Fanuc requires Separate guides per wire Dia.

[SledGeek]

Ran MIts FA20 for about 6 yrs. Accuracy was unwavering. Power settings and powermaster easy to master. Auto threader worked great, but had to keep it spotless. Same with wire chopper. My only real complaint is the floats for the tank level were high maintenance. Mastercam 9 thru X4 worked well for flat work as well as 4axis. We did mostly flat die plates, punch holders, and extrusion dies with alot of 4axis forms .

Did need separate diamond guides for different size wires. Flush cups, wire guides, carbide power feeders, etc. were always in stock and received great service and support from them.

i would buy one In fact, with any luck we will get one where I'm at now .

[Oppiz]

How long have you had the Mitz Oppiz?

Since 1998.. I have 2, the older being a FX10K and a newer FA10P.

[Del.]

Since 1998.. I have 2, the older being a FX10K and a newer FA10P.

 

That's a sign of a good machine when after 10 years it's still as good as new on accuracy.

[koko76]

FWIW I have had nothing but issues with Mits service and support of the SX10 we purchased used. Service in your area may consist of more competent individuals, but I had issues dealing with the head office as well. I'm shopping for a new machine to replace the one on my floor, Mit's is not on my list at all.

[Del.]

FWIW I have had nothing but issues with Mits service and support of the SX10 we purchased used. Service in your area may consist of more competent individuals, but I had issues dealing with the head office as well. I'm shopping for a new machine to replace the one on my floor, Mit's is not on my list at all.

 

 

My service for the Fanucs and the training was top notch professional.

[SledGeek]

FWIW I have had nothing but issues with Mits service and support of the SX10 we purchased used. Service in your area may consist of more competent individuals, but I had issues dealing with the head office as well. I'm shopping for a new machine to replace the one on my floor, Mit's is not on my list at all.

 

Where r u located KoKo ?

[Oppiz]

FWIW I have had nothing but issues with Mits service and support of the SX10 we purchased used. Service in your area may consist of more competent individuals, but I had issues dealing with the head office as well. I'm shopping for a new machine to replace the one on my floor, Mit's is not on my list at all.

 

I am very surprised to hear that. I've had nothing but top notch experience with Mits. service and support.

[Del.]

I am very surprised to hear that. I've had nothing but top notch experience with Mits. service and support.

 

 

That's because after they see your pic they are afraid of you.

[TK-32™]

8 Fanuc's here. 4 frailry new. We use MasterCam mill to generate 2D toolpath and use the machines AI for spark settings. We also have the Wire Seat for 4 axis stuff.

[koko76]

Where r u located KoKo ?

 

Northeast. Service was through Millenium. As I said it was a used (very clean) machine, and the issues that needed service were of the standard everyday maintenance issues. Not chasing electrical gremlins or anything like that. Both techs that have serviced the machine could not operate it at all, one even had to ask me to jog the machine.

[Del.]

8 Fanuc's here. 4 frailry new. We use MasterCam mill to generate 2D toolpath and use the machines AI for spark settings. We also have the Wire Seat for 4 axis stuff.

 

 

Curious as to why you dont use the wire seat to do the 2d stuff.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

It's probably just faster and easier. I used to do that when I was at a place with a wire but do wire seat. Just treat it like an endmill the diameter of your kerf.

[SledGeek]

Northeast. Service was through Millenium. As I said it was a used (very clean) machine, and the issues that needed service were of the standard everyday maintenance issues. Not chasing electrical gremlins or anything like that. Both techs that have serviced the machine could not operate it at all, one even had to ask me to jog the machine.

 

Detroit area here. Not hard to beleive there is such a vast difference in service and knowledge. It is hard to beleive they let it happen tho......I would complain to someone up the chain from service location.

[Oppiz]

That's because after they see your pic they are afraid of you.

 

I really am tall, ugly and have a block head!

[koko76]

Detroit area here. Not hard to beleive there is such a vast difference in service and knowledge. It is hard to beleive they let it happen tho......I would complain to someone up the chain from service location.

Like the service manager for Millenium? I did, nothing.

[Del.]

I just came back from another tool shop where they have 2 Agies. Operator told me they were very accurate machines but he spent a lot of time working on them and replacing parts. The wire threader on the Fanucs are superior in my opinion and maintenance is low.